(03-08-2020, 01:45 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote:

(03-08-2020, 08:31 AM)mikesez Wrote: Of course I noted that phrase, but that's not what I was responding to. I had no problem with Marty's post. Handsome Rob change that phrase. And 42 minutes was also trying to push a similar thought. Blame it on only Democrats.  Blame it on only progressives. That's when I jumped in. In order to take the timeline of understanding back far enough to the founding of the Democratic Party, you have to realize that people weren't merely racist back then. They actually held slaves.

So your rebuttal of democrats defending slavery since their inception is.... there were slave owners prior to the Democrats? Of course there were, neoliberals progressives have always had/wanted slaves. The democrat party was started by an well known slave owner according to you, Thomas Jefferson. They have always been for slavery.

It's pointless to ascribe these things to Democrats or Republicans.  Those parties have switched positions.  The Republicans used to be liberals and the Democrats used to be conservatives.

Liberals have never been for slavery.  Abolitionists were liberals.  Slave owners in the South were conservatives.  Lincoln was a Republican and a liberal.

My point was, it is ironic that liberals have now adopted identity politics, which originated with conservatives and was a main pillar of conservative thinking back when it was to their advantage.

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