(03-24-2020, 03:53 PM)Bullseye Wrote:

(03-24-2020, 05:57 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Under normal circumstances, I don't think a team should spend a high draft pick on a QB in two straight years.  Reason being, I don't think you can tell if you have "the guy" until at least the middle of year 2.  And during that time, you need to give him as many practice reps as possible, and he needs to start.   Drafting a starting QB in back to back drafts handicaps both of them, because they would both have to be developed and evaluated, and there aren't enough practices for both of them and they can't both start regular season games.  When we draft a QB to start, you have to focus all your resources on that guy.  

In the case of the Jags, Minshew was arguably the best rookie QB last year.  That's why I would put our focus on him this year, and not draft another starter.  If he doesn't work out this year, look for a new one next year.   We have to be a little bit disciplined about this.   This isn't the last time we'll be able to draft a QB.  There will be more candidates next year.

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Though in my original post, I discuss taking QB early this year and possibly next year, in the most immediate context, I'm talking about this year.  Remember, we don't know how the draft position think will pan out next year.  Even if Trevor Lawrence and J. Fields have great years, declare themselves draft eligible, and are the top two signal callers, we don't know whether we'll be in position to draft either of them with or without having to trade up to get them.  This leaves us with this year.  As of this year, we haven't taken a QB high in the past two seasons. 

You continue with the imminently fair observation that it can take a while to know what you have in a player at that position.  But if Minshew is still an unknown (at least not fully known) quantity, why would you consider changing your draft priorities to accommodate him?  If an independent objective analysis of the available talent on the boars shows the best player is on defense, why would you draft a weapon for Minshew?  (I know exactly why and I an fairly certain those of you reading know why too, but I'd like to see the reasoning.)

But to continue on this theme, this carries into the last emphasized point.

For those of you arguing the draft's focus should be on helping Minshew, do you now assert that any pick other than a WR or LT (those positions that might be of most direct help to Minshew which appear to be worth at or near that draft spot) at 9 would be a mistake?

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(03-24-2020, 06:05 AM)Hurricane Wrote: As much as i want to believe this year is a make or break year for Caldwell and Marrone, I'm doubtful in it. But with taking that in consideration, i don't think drafting a qb with a high pick makes sense this year. Give Minshew his chance. If he succeeds awesome, if he doesn't then let the new coaching staff bring in their guy.

So basically you would avoid pulling the trigger on a QB because you don't believe this current administration is fit to make that decision?

What if they happen to be accurate in their evaluation and the player they like otherwise fits at 9?  If some picks are mistakes, is every pick a mistake?

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(03-24-2020, 11:14 AM)Dimson Wrote: I feel we will draft another late round QB to compete with Dobbs. Nothing before round 6 though.

So you think that's what WILL happen.  What do you think SHOULD happen?

If it's a make or break year, the team needs to focus on filling holes. You have a QB that performed on par with the ORoY QB that was taken first. If our situation was different and we actually had a pretty decent team without holes, then i would be more than happy to take a gamble and draft another QB. We just aren't there. There's very few players on the board that wouldn't be upgrades to the majority of our positions on every ones mock draft within 2-3 picks. We basically just need to upgrade too much to be wasting picks on a position that we at least feel semi confident about. If Minshew doesn't turn out to be the man, then at the very least we have invested in some current needs that will benefit the whole team moving forward. It honestly sucks we aren't in the position to be able to trade up and risk everything on a QB. You'd think after this many years of picking so high, we wouldn't need to be filling so many holes.

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