(04-15-2020, 03:09 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote:

Quote:Is it really so bad to have winning expectations?

Not if the talent is reasonably capable of winning seasons.  If the team doesn't have the talent to win, it isn't necessarily "bad"

Quote:It’s almost like some of you are just content with the mediocrity.

1.  How would being dissatisfied with the results be sufficiently manifest by us to you?  Should the city condemn the team offices at the stadium under eminent domain and evict them?  Should there be massive social unrest in and around the stadium until the team posts winning records?  Summary execution of random team employees?  (Queue John McKay).  Videos of us kicking our dogs?  Not buying tickets?

2.  Assuming the majority of Jaguars fans expressed dissatisfaction to a sufficient level in your eyes, and the team heard that, how long do you think it would take to turn the expression of that dissatisfaction into winning football?  When those of you who make the charge of people being content with mediocrity or worse by the Jaguars hear us express resignation over the current state, you don't hear contentment.  

Suppose you went to McDonald's and the cashier gives you piss poor service, mouths off at you, gets the order wrong, and was just plain bad.  You complain to the manager and give him/her, in no uncertain terms, a piece of your mind.  The manager fires the malcontent on the spot, puts a sign in the window, and by the end of the week at the latest, they can find someone to upgrade that person.

It's NOT THAT SIMPLE WITH NFL TEAMS!

If our ___ has a horrible game in mid season, the fans could boo him mercilessly, call into talk shows, and post on message boards/ Twitter/Reddit.  Unless we are talking about a punter or kicker, the chances of upgrading him immediately are slim, barring highly unusual circumstances.  More likely, upgrading that position can't and won't happen until the following spring.  There are very few people who can play NFL football,  fewer still are those who are good enough to unseat an incumbent player at a position.  Thirty one other teams are competing for those same players.

The comments you find so...unambitious, for want of better phrasing, simply reflect the realization of that reality.

Quote:This teams history has been fairly mediocre, particularly in the last decade.

I echo those who say that it's been less than mediocre for much of that time.

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What’s so bad about wanting better football? And why has it eluded us for so long?

(04-15-2020, 03:22 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(04-15-2020, 03:09 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: Is it really so bad to have winning expectations? It’s almost like some of you are just content with the mediocrity. This teams history has been fairly mediocre, particularly in the last decade. What’s so bad about wanting better football? And why has it eluded us for so long?

You're confusing people understanding that all teams go through droughts, sometimes long ones, with "being content with mediocrity."
Which is just a lame [BLEEP] label people on this message board love to throw around anytime someone isn't as upset as they are about something completely out of anyone's control here. 

The team has been too bad for too long. Everyone knows this. Some of us have just been around long enough to see every team go through their own version of this kind of crap over the years. Doesn't mean we're OK with it. Doesn't mean we "embrace mediocrity" or however you want to hyperbolize it. Just realistic.