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NFL.com - Jags have had Leonard Fournette trade talks for month

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(This post was last modified: 04-19-2020, 12:34 PM by SeldomRite.)

(04-19-2020, 12:23 PM)D-Money Wrote:
(04-19-2020, 11:09 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: If he'd have turned any of his long runs into touchdowns this year I'd think a little better of him, but the fact that he got repeatedly taken down from behind by guys catching up to him when he managed to get a break said he's not even good in the way a lot of people thought he was. Sure the offensive line wasn't good this year, either, but what happens when the blocking isn't a problem says a lot, and none of it is good. If the blocking isn't good and the running back isn't good you get a performance like Fournette had where a few lucky breaks get him a few hundred yards on a handful of carries and make his average look respectable, but the 99% type of runs from him are more than replaceable. If the team is going to be bad and unable to run anyway then get whatever draft value you can now since he's probably not in the team's future plans, anyway.

I know Vic loved saying wide receivers are a dime a dozen, but it really applies more to running backs, don't pay them, don't draft them high. Draft linemen on both sides of the ball and find guys that can emulate what Fournette does, not scoring touchdowns in the open field and not breaking arm tackles.

I still don't believe you answered his question. This is the problem with everyone we had traded away. We are giving away playing who are producing at there current positions. Yan, LF, Bouye, Arob, Ramsey, TGip all good players but we dont have anyone that will step in a replace the production. We have had high draft picks for the last 15 years and have only really had a solid team of all pro caliber players in our 2016, 2017 years.

High draft picks are not guaranteed if you pick the wrong players like Caldwell has done so many times. The fact that everyone feels we can replicate the production from all our good players is the reason why we are in the current situation, Dave Caldwell believes the same thing but it is not working. Every player on the team from our most successfull season can't have been a cancer. There are multiple teams with players with character flaws and issues but the COACHES and FO understand how to deal with them and get what they need to get. You telling me, he had to get rid of everyone from the winning team? Dave and Doug couldn't handle it. Whose to say that this same thing doesn't happen again in a year or 2? Will they do the same thing? 

Dave Doug and Shad are either reallly stupid or very smart in the way of making the team worse but still having majority of the fans agreeing with all of the moves that are being made. Maybe they are trying to get us to London..smh

The salary cap is the problem, namely the bad QB management made it so that they couldn't keep the team together. Let's say they draft Mahomes instead of Fournette, then the team never does a bad deal with Bortles, and never follows that with an even worse deal for Foles. Then the team probably won a Superbowl in 2017 instead of coming up short because of a QB you can't count on, and all the guys you mentioned are still here because most of the cap isn't being taken up by a couple of horrific QB contracts.

In the NFL you can't keep everyone when you do things right, when you do things as wrong as the Jaguars have then you really can't keep everyone.

So while draft picks aren't guaranteed, I'd rather go ahead and build toward the future now instead of worrying about whether the team wins 5 games or 7 games this year.
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RE: Jags have had trade discussions regarding Fournette - by SeldomRite - 04-19-2020, 12:33 PM



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