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More Context to the Ramsey trade

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(This post was last modified: 04-24-2020, 10:59 AM by Bullseye.)

(04-24-2020, 10:04 AM)enigma Wrote:
(04-24-2020, 10:02 AM)Kane Wrote: I don't get the dislike of either pick really. Henderson was highly regarded, even if a few board posters who know jack about diddly didn't like him. He's a cover corner with suspect tackling, but we don't need him to tackle we need him to cover. And I remember a knock on Ramsey being no INTs, then he was catching some INTs in the NFL so maybe we should take a beat and calm down a bit.
As per the pick at 20... any pick at 20, no matter who they were, wasn't going to be an equal value to the talent of Ramsey. However, we got an edge rusher who is actually good vs the run and can drop into coverage. The team has recently noted that we'd have a few more 34 looks so perhaps we'll see him used a bit like a chess piece. So now we have a possible replacement to Yan, and if nothing else a replacement for Fowler. The Ramsey trade didn't only net us the 20 pick, it netted us a 2021 first rounder and 4th rounder as well. So there is no telling who we get with those picks.... But 3 players for 1 player that doesn't want to be here is always a win, imo.

We now have a legit #1 CB and we have another pass rusher. Ramsey was a hell of a talent. But the compensation was great for a player who was done here and had no intention of resigning. If we can move Yan for a 2021 first at this point, I'd be good with that too.

Did the first round land exactly like anyone wanted it? Doubtful... Everyone has their favorite players and the way they want the draft to go. But I think it's a very good start at a rebuild.

This post 1000000000%.

I don't know why it's so hard to follow.

Ramsey-level talent was never going to be replenished with that #20 pick - but the compensation we received for a player who checked out on his organization, team, and teammates OUTWARDLY was very surprising in a good way.

(emphasis added)

The emphasized portion is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

By your own words, you are fine with exchanging superior talent for lesser talent.

The negative talent exchange is the problem I have with this whole thing.

(04-24-2020, 10:33 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(04-24-2020, 09:52 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: You literally called him Arden Key 3 weeks ago.... your attitude has only changed because he’s a Jag.

Its definitely not who I wanted but he's 20 with and a high upside like Key and Mingo were.  I'm gonna see what he does before I say its a bad pick

I was never a fan of Key OR Mingo.

To his credit, I see Chaisson as having a better burst than either guy, but at this point,  limited nonetheless.

I desperately hope I am proven wrong with this, but my initial impression is that we missed on this pick.
 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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Messages In This Thread
More Context to the Ramsey trade - by Bullseye - 04-23-2020, 10:54 PM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by Caldrac - 04-23-2020, 11:05 PM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by rfc17 - 04-23-2020, 11:05 PM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by Dimson - 04-23-2020, 11:05 PM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by nate - 04-24-2020, 01:09 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by Kane - 04-24-2020, 10:05 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by Jags239 - 04-24-2020, 12:00 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by enigma - 04-24-2020, 12:07 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by Firesky - 04-24-2020, 12:49 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by enigma - 04-24-2020, 12:23 PM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by enigma - 04-24-2020, 12:34 PM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by Kane - 04-24-2020, 10:02 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by enigma - 04-24-2020, 10:04 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by Kane - 04-24-2020, 10:14 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by Bullseye - 04-24-2020, 10:55 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by RicoTx - 04-24-2020, 11:01 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by RicoTx - 04-24-2020, 11:37 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by Kane - 04-24-2020, 11:07 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by uthill - 04-24-2020, 10:10 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by jj82284 - 04-24-2020, 10:10 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by enigma - 04-24-2020, 11:27 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by nate - 04-24-2020, 11:35 AM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by B2hibry - 04-24-2020, 05:46 PM
RE: More Context to the Ramsey trade - by Jags - 04-24-2020, 06:35 PM



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