(04-24-2020, 11:58 AM)BlueEyedJag Wrote:

(04-24-2020, 11:52 AM)JagFan81 Wrote: I think there is the bigger question of why do we keep finding ourselves in these situations with our best players. Sure you have contract disputes but i dont see players on other teams going to the level our guys do to get out. You can say they were all bad apples or didnt want to be here but why? 

I dont get this obsession with draft picks for talent, only if your going to replace or improve. We have stripped out what last bits of talent we can get picks for and are trying to get rid of Fournette and Ngakoue too. The talent has dropped massively on this roster, especially D.

Could you not also argue Ramsey tried to talk to coaches about ways we can improve and be better and was ignored/fined and just decided to go elsewhere? How long would you stay at your job if your boss was doing it wrong everyday and blamed you for trying to fix things?

Well we can only hope that it was all TC...

Was this crap happening before he got here?

And before we jump to the Ngakoue situation...I think that started with TC and now Ngakoue has dug himself too deep down the rabbit hole to remedy the situation.

I love Yan and would love nothing more than this whole issue to just go away but im not defending his actions since the season ended. Acting an idiot and only hurting his chances of getting out of here. You can get paid or go, just not both.

I think we all hope that TC was the sole problem but we know its not. You go back to the start of Khan and Caldwell, we purged the roster of any talent and drafted O. Bortles-Robinson-Hurns looked like our guys going forward but one by one fell apart.

Then we had the 2017 D. Truly elite. It should have been compared to the Seattle D, Tampa D, Baltimore D. It could do everything and it was filled with young talent. Of that whole D, we have Yan and Jack left. Thats it. IN 3 YEARS!

It feels like weve had good players and chances to build a true competing team but we just let it slip through our fingers

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