(04-24-2020, 12:11 PM)Bullseye Wrote:

(04-24-2020, 11:29 AM)MalabarJag Wrote:
So is your point theoretical? Because the Raiders screwed up (and I'm sure you can come up with other examples) that means trading an All Pro player is never justified?

Whether or not you like the Chaisson pick (and I didn't) he was the top rated player on a lot of boards. The Cowboys were planning on him before Lamb fell into their laps. Caldwell has show success in drafting edge rushers, and not so much with OTs. Both Prisco and Walter gave the pick A grades (admittedly there was grade inflation from both with a lot of A's), and from NFL.com who gave the Jags a grade-inflated A overall:

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No, that's not what I am saying.

Let me summarize...

1.  If you have a star player on your roster, do what you can to keep him.  If he becomes unhappy, do what you can to smooth things over.
2.  If the differences between him and the team become completely untenable, get as many picks as you can for him.
3.  Make sure you turn the picks you get in exchange for him into the best players.

I have mixed feelings about #1.  I think the team was slow to give him a new deal when other players drafted immediately above him in the same draft class got new deals.  Ramsey did not.  Then there was the whole thing with Coughlin.  Those things pissed Ramsey off and were completely avoidable.  However, the team DID try to smooth things over with him (at least everyone but TC did).  Marrone said he wanted to keep him.  Caldwell said he wanted to keep him.  Khan said he wanted to keep him and met with him to try to achieve that result.

Point 2, I absolutely believe the team achieved this result.  No problem with this part.

Point 3 is where I have the issue at this point.  Might my perspective change?  Sure.  If Chaisson becomes a Pro Bowl caliber player for us, my opinion will change.  Or if he doesn't, if the picks we get in 2021 turn into Pro Bowl caliber players, then my opinion changes.

I get what you are saying but as has been my point...your main hang up being #3....IT'S TOO EARLY TO TELL!!!

Once again, you seem to be acting like we got a fringe 3rd rounder at 20.

As for point #1...Khan tried to smooth it over with Ramsey...that issue was solely on Ramsey. 
With Ngakoue, if you believe Caldwell they offered him 2 times to settle the situation but Ngakoue's bad agent advice/ego seems to have put him in a hole that even if Jacksonville did everything possible to "smooth it over" and offer him a higher $$ contract he still wouldn't take it because his mouth has written too many check his ***/ego can't cash at this point.

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