(05-05-2020, 09:01 PM)Last42min Wrote:

(05-05-2020, 08:02 PM)mikesez Wrote: I think Gabe's point is more that ascribing the motives of the very worst subset of your opponents to all of your opponents is both innaccurate and rude.
We can't treat political opponents as enemies unless we are okay with turning politics into war.
But it's just so so easy from behind the keyboard and the username...

As for "it conflicts with their world view"...
People who get paid to write for fancy websites use the word worldview as a more respectable synonym for ideology. They both get totally revised every 8 to 10 years. Maybe you haven't been around long enough to notice.
Obamacare borrowed more from a framework first created by the heritage foundation in 1993 than it did from any thing in Hillary Clinton's plan that came out that same year. Did the entire American conservative worldview turn on its head that much in just 16 years? Worldview is one of those words you've got to watch out for. One of those sneaky words that people use when they are trying to get you over the hump from simply trusting them or identifying with them to outsourcing your thinking to them. "oh you already said you agree with me about A, well A is part of a world view that would lead any reasonable person to also agree with B and C".

You should let Gabe speak for himself. 

World view is not a sneaky word. I prefer to use "world view" to "ideology" when speaking broadly. I like to use the word ideology when we are speaking about something that is or should be clearly defined. There is a way in which all of use perceive the world that affects our rationale. It's important for people to examine the circumstances that helped shaped the way they think about the world. Our biases can cause us to believe we are making logical choices when we are not. 

For example, at some point in your life, you started thinking that because you were able to google information that you were also able to interpret it. This created a bias within yourself that believes you contribute something useful to the conversation when you don't. Until you can acknowledge that you're a pretentious blowhard, you're going to have this warped view of the way you are interacting with others. Whether you have democratic or republican ideologies, all of us will continue to be tormented, because you are insufferable. Unfortunately, no amount of evidence will convince you this the truth. We're just going to have to keep reading your inane drivel, while you go on having a high opinion of yourself. Everyone loses, really. You see why examining your world view is important?

You may not think that you are being sneaky, but you probably picked up that word "worldview" from people who are sneaky.
"Practical men who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." -John Maynard Keynes

I want to stay on topic, you want to talk about me.
This is the politics sub forum of the least popular team in the NFL. If any of us think anything we say here will influence anything at all, that's basically the definition of pretentious.
You ought to look in the mirror.
We're all pretentious blowhards.
Maybe you think that you can improve things by scaring people away with insults. You can't. This is already a very small community. It'll just get smaller. You get rid of me, it will not satisfy you. The next person who disagrees with you will be the next pretentious blowhard.

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