(05-06-2020, 02:18 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:

(05-06-2020, 07:40 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: This post mostly makes no sense. 

First, Khan allows his teams to sometimes fail?! You mean basically all the time right? He’s had 1 winning season in his tenure as owner. Second, how does he “allow them to fail (which isn’t taught in today’s education)”? Today’s education has nothing to do with the Jags organization and their attempts to winning.

Third, at what point should you fire this staff that has done just about nothing in terms of winning on the field? Just keep letting them lose and say “hey. These young kids don’t get it. What with their madden and instant success. Give Marrone 10 more years and we got this 8 win season in the bag.”

Last, of course they’re trying to win. Every coach is trying to win but this staff just isn’t good at it. Glad you’re enjoying the losing though and trying to equate sports to every day life where losing can become life lessons.

I guess (not surprising) you don't understand the point that I was trying to make, so let me see if I can be a little more clear about it.

1.  The ultimate goal is to win the Super Bowl.  Anything less is a failure.

2.  Doug Marrone has been head coach for only 3 seasons.  That's not much and one of those seasons he managed to make it to the post-season and beyond.

3.  Changes have been made to front office/coaching staff during that time.  Were/are they the right changes?  The only way to find out is to let a season play out and evaluate.

If a team is not successful after 2 or 3 seasons you don't just "blow it all up" by firing everybody and starting over.  You evaluate and determine where changes need to be made and make them.  That's what I meant by "allowing failure" (refer to my first point).

At no time did I say that I "enjoy losing".  In a perfect world I would love to see the team not lose a game and be champs every season.  That's not reality.  Many fans want to "win now", and when they don't get their way they pout like little children.  You're not going to win every time and that is a life lesson.  You accept it, learn from it and move on.

Shad is that you?

You do realize there's like 95% chance this is gonna be a losing season right? Khan knows it and he is still ok with it because he is too cheap to fire these guys and pay other people too.

If a team is not successful after 2 or 3 seasons you don't just "blow it all up" Sure, you give awful HCs and GM at least 5 years, maybe more, depends on the excuses you can make up for them. Wait, let me guess, that's is not what you meant. You evaluate and determine where changes need to be made and make them Like what changes? Coordinators? Like when JDR had like 5 OCs and we still had a mediocre Offense?. 2 years was more than enough to know Bradley was a mistake. 3 years for Gene Smith. 3 years for Caldwell as well since he never had a winning season until TC arrived and did his job. 

Many fans wanna win now hahahahahahahaha can you blame them? DC record before TC was 15-49, if we want a record of all the years he's been here 36-76. Fans understand pretty well that if we get a new FO and coaching staff we are not gonna win right away, the thing is, WE DON'T WANNA STAY WITH WHAT WE KNOW IT DOESN'T WORK!

If we somehow manage to have a decent (doesn't mean winning season) season this year and next it will be thanks to Minshew, a Coughlin's guy, but I know some people will still give the credit to DC anyway and will be saying we need to extend him and we'll stay awful/mediocre for 3-4 more year, just the way you like it.

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