(05-07-2020, 07:05 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(05-06-2020, 10:34 PM)Bullseye Wrote: So you would sacrifice Allen for Haskins?  Interesting.  Tannehill would have been an interesting choice, but I don't think he was the difference between us having a winning season or not.  I think last year we end up losing with Tannehill and everyone concludes he wasn't the answer.  In Tennessee, he had everything around him to succeed with minimal production from him.  He had a strong running game and a good group of receivers and a typically tough defense.  I don't see him carrying a team.

Yeah, the team did get worse since 2017.  Not all of that falls on Marrone.

I fault Marrone for his response to that season by firing some very good assistants.  I expressed concerns at the time those firings were made and I haven't changed my mind since (though the Gruden hiring is promising).

Not all of it falls on Caldwell.  Caldwell drafted talented players.  TC traded two of them away.

Not all of it falls on TC, though he was the first to be fired for it.

TC got good free agents here, but then alienated four contributors (Robinson, Ramsey, Fowler and Yan).  Three of them are gone, and one is trying deaperately to leave.

Will Marrone likely be fired after a losing year this year?  Probably.  I think Caldwell has more rope, but both are on short leashes I think.

I just hope if either or both are fired, they are upgraded, and the team is able to draft AND RETAIN top tier talent and freaking win!  I'm not talking  a few game winning streak.  I'm not talking one season of winning.  I'm talking sustained winning...that excites the city into buying season tickets and fans into buying merchandising, winning a Super Bowl or three.

That’s what we all want man and I don’t see Marrone leading this team to a Super Bowl which is why I would have cut bait after the 2019 season.

I know that he can get us within 2-4 minutes of the Super bowl with a sufficiently talented team playing on the road against the GOAT coach and QB.  Not speculation...fact.  Because that's exactly what happened here. 

With Blake freaking Bortles.

The questions are:  A) can we build a sufficiently talented team again? and B  )  How long will it take?

Maybe, if we can actually draft good to great players and commit to keeping as many of them as possible so we can actually accumulate talent instead of drafting on a treadmill.  Whether you like the particular players or not, the fact is the team comes up with too many justifications for jettisoning too many damn talented players.

This offseason represents a culture change as much as an attempt t inject talent.  There is now much more of an emphasis on character, etc.

There should be zero excuse NOT to res-sign the bulk of these players if we hit on them and they become pro bowl caliber guys.

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