(05-11-2020, 01:33 PM)TJBender Wrote:

(05-11-2020, 12:55 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Do you understand the difference between murder/homicide and involuntary manslaughter?  I'll give you a hint... key word is intent.

The intent is clear the second a freaking shotgun is pulled out for absolutely no defensible reason. Was Arbery pointing a gun at anyone? Was he running wild with a machete? Did he have a suicide bomb strapped to his chest? If I were to pull out a shotgun and walk towards you, would you consider that intent to harm you or not?

A threat does not need to be armed. A perceived threat can justify deadly force. And Arbery ran towards the shotgun, not visa vis. In any case, a defense justification will be tricky for either party in court.

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(05-11-2020, 01:49 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(05-11-2020, 01:27 PM)B2hibry Wrote: Bottom Line: You are ignoring a whole set of facts in order to run with your narrative. It is indeed rhetoric at this point based on public information and regardless of your opinion. There is no law against brandishing a firearm. Even without the shotgun, as a retired investigator, I'm certain he has a law enforcement weapons permit. I'll ask you again, in hindsight does a concealed firearm change your point of view? You are right on one point, things could have been different...but as I've been saying since the beginning of this thread, both parties could have removed just one variable to avoid this whole situation. Pretty typical in most situations like this, but that variable is not racism. I am curious as to why we haven't heard about or seen a video of the police and paramedic response.

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This is the type of stuff racial rhetoric gets you...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ibute.html

You have no clue if this was racially motivated or not because the kid is dead and can’t tell his side.

You think the McMichaels are going to come out and say “yup. We followed him and killed him because he’s black”. No chance. 

These dudes only followed him in their truck with a shotgun because he’s black.

Your right, so why are you going on and on about white versus black? You don't think if it was a white guy snooping in houses and vehicles he wouldn't have been followed? Get outta here.

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