(05-27-2020, 01:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: People resist arrest every day.  They usually get some bruises for their trouble.  And the cops might take some blows too, that's one of the reasons we respect cops as much as we do.  It's a dangerous job and will never stop being dangerous.
The fact that some force was needed does not in any way excuse that excessive force was used.
Any of the other three cops who were present could have saved the man's life.  
None of this gets better unless all four cops are in jail.
Cops have to understand that they will face jail when they use excessive force, and when they permit their fellow officers to use it, or else they will keep making excuses and nothing will change.

I'm not excusing the cops in the situation, other than the video doesn't show everything at least in the small clip I saw. I doubt there would be a reason to continue to put your knee on someone's neck, but who knows.

The problem is with excessive force, it is hard to define and it is too open ended. It is very hard to handcuff someone that doesn't want to be. It takes a lot of force even for smaller, weak people. So how do you not use excessive force to handcuff someone that is resisting arrest? 2 cops would have a hard time handcuffing a stronger person. In the struggle, a gun could be taken and then a cop gets shot.

The issue stems from cops not being able to quickly make someone resisting comply. You can't hit them, you can't damage their arm/shoulder, you can't even just taser them. I thought when tasers came out, that would be the go to response. You don't comply, you immediately shocked and put on the ground. The issue was it harms some people, they sue, so you can't do that any more.

Right or wrong, if police want to arrest you, you have to comply or risk injury. This was overboard, but don't give bad cops an excuse to be bad.

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