(05-28-2020, 09:49 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(05-28-2020, 08:56 PM)Last42min Wrote: Who disagrees with that? I can't find one person that thinks this was acceptable, including many police departments that have come out to condemn it. This cop was clearly unfit for the position and deserves punishment. I condemn the act. However, I am addressing a different issue in this thread, because what should have been a bipartisan issue about our shared humanity has been handcuffed to a lie that police are killing blacks in mass numbers. This narrative should not be supported by anyone. It is not ok to use a minuscule sample size as evidence of widespread corruption and racism. People are literally rioting because they believe they are being murdered by police, but the numbers do not bear this out. This isn't because it's a rampant problem. It's because the media pushes a narrative because it makes them money and happens to fit the world view of a majority of journalists and editors. 

You will not solve human error, either from bad judgement or poor character. You could make the entire police department black, and there would still be unjust killings. As an aside, it's a statistical fact that black police officers are more likely to kill black suspects, and this holds true for other races, too (whites kill more whites, hispanics kill more hispanics). Just stop telling people they are being killed by a racist institution. It's a LIE.

Just trying to steer to topic. 
Which is the senseless killing of George Floyd by a reckless cop who had 18 complaints filed against him - including an excessive force lawsuit ending in the C.O. Minneapolis paying out a settlement. 

Regarding your "racist institution" thing: 
Unfortunately we just don't have data to bear out exactly how many lives have been unnecessarily lost at the hands of cops who were also racist [BLEEP] -wads.  That data doesn't exist. 

What we do know is that police forces need to do a better job of vetting out the racist [BLEEP] -wads and training the ones who do make the cut exactly how and when to use lethal force.  

A call for reform on both issues is warranted.

That data does exist. It's not perfect, but we are in the ball park. I can link plenty of studies that support what I am saying. Unless someone is manipulating the data (which happens all the time), you can see that this is not an institutional problem, but one that comes from a myriad of factors unrelated to the policing process with the exception of the occasional malpractice. It can be improved, but it is not THE issue. It's a red herring. 

Tell you what, I will stop spitting facts and listen. Please, everyone who thinks this is a major problem. How do we solve human error and poor character? How do we police the inner city better? How do you remove human bias? How do we reduce violent crime in the areas that need it the most? How do you undo fears that have been created because of cherry-picked stories? How do you create a system with no negligence?

Offer me any solution that doesn't end in a socialist Utopia and I am all ears.

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