(05-28-2020, 10:22 PM)Last42min Wrote:

(05-28-2020, 09:49 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Just trying to steer to topic. 
Which is the senseless killing of George Floyd by a reckless cop who had 18 complaints filed against him - including an excessive force lawsuit ending in the C.O. Minneapolis paying out a settlement. 

Regarding your "racist institution" thing: 
Unfortunately we just don't have data to bear out exactly how many lives have been unnecessarily lost at the hands of cops who were also racist [BLEEP] -wads.  That data doesn't exist. 

What we do know is that police forces need to do a better job of vetting out the racist [BLEEP] -wads and training the ones who do make the cut exactly how and when to use lethal force.  

A call for reform on both issues is warranted.

That data does exist. It's not perfect, but we are in the ball park. I can link plenty of studies that support what I am saying. Unless someone is manipulating the data (which happens all the time), you can see that this is not an institutional problem, but one that comes from a myriad of factors unrelated to the policing process with the exception of the occasional malpractice. It can be improved, but it is not THE issue. It's a red herring. 

Tell you what, I will stop spitting facts and listen. Please, everyone who thinks this is a major problem. How do we solve human error and poor character? How do we police the inner city better? How do you remove human bias? How do we reduce violent crime in the areas that need it the most? How do you undo fears that have been created because of cherry-picked stories? How do you create a system with no negligence?

Offer me any solution that doesn't end in a socialist Utopia and I am all ears.

1. No, that data doesn't exist because there is no way to accurately gather it.  There is no concrete way to tally the number of racist police officers or the missteps they've taken on the job that stemmed from their derangement. 
2. I've offered the most obvious of solutions and you went off on some tangent and asked for solutions. 
3. What the hell is wrong with a widespread reform on both issues? 
     a. the use of lethal force by officers - and b. the vetting of police officers for racial bias (among other things)? 
4. Whatever your little personal vendetta against the notion that racism exists within police forces may be - a reform effort nationally to equip officers with the tools they need to prevent riot-inciting material for the evening news is a good idea.  If for no other reason than to temper the current heat around the topic and ease relations to a degree of effective communication.

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