(05-29-2020, 09:14 AM)MalabarJag Wrote:

(05-28-2020, 11:27 PM)TJBender Wrote: Congratulations, 28.3 million idiots didn't update their address or gave a bad one when registering. You'll note that it specifically says in the article that there's no evidence that any ballots were used fraudulently. So, basically, over the course of the last four elections, approximately seven million ballots went missing in each...and were never seen, heard from or used. That's actually not a bad number of mail pieces to get lost.

I love the progression of this. Trump sees Wisconsin and decides that mail-in ballots are a threat to his re-election, so suddenly they're a threat to democracy and must be stopped. Republicans who previously didn't care about mail-in ballots in their own states circle the wagons behind him. The Drifters and StroudCrowds of the world bow at the altar of the Almighty Orange and immediately parrot that and link incredibly factually questionable (at best) articles suggesting that somehow lost mail equals fraud. [BLEEP] me sideways with a lunchbox, I better go make sure no one's used that 10% off coupon from Petco that never made it to me.

The few that were caught

And the incidents are increasing with time as more people vote by absentee ballot.

Do you not understand that there's a huge difference between some people requesting and receiving an absentee ballot vs. everyone getting a ballot in the mail. If you intend to steal votes you have to know where the mail-in ballots can be found. If everyone gets one then that question is already answered. There are enough incidents in the past when only a subset of votes could be stolen to show that this is a real possibility. Whether or not the number was small or just the tip of the iceberg in the past has no bearing on what could/would happen if everyone votes by mail.

1. Two months before the election, send every registered voter a PIN. Send the PIN again at 45 days. Without this PIN, online balloting cannot be completed and a mail-in ballot won't be accepted.
   
2. The ballot contains a second identification number, tied to that PIN. The PIN and ballot are never stored together, but if the PIN doesn't match the ballot ID, the vote won't be counted. Personal identification is not contained on either form.