(05-29-2020, 01:03 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(05-29-2020, 12:33 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: You assume that this guy wasnt already properly trained. That's not so.

Incorrect on several fronts. 

1. I didn't assume jack [BLEEP]. 

2. Whether or not he was initially trained well is irrelevant because:
   a -  it didn't work - so what does "properly" mean exactly -  he acted outside of his training
   b - additional training is what I'm suggesting and it was clearly needed

3. He was trained to place his knee between the prisoner's shoulder blades - not on his neck/throat - this is straight from the Minn. P.D.  

4. The secondary point of additional (augmented)  training is about community relations which I've repeated a half dozen times now

5. The other thing I'm repeating to mostly deaf ears is vetting improvements - and this guy clearly is a poster boy for improved vetting when you see his complaint record. 

Again - what's so terrible about adding an element of training on a broad scale that seeks to prevent this kind of misstep from happening?   
Not a damn thing. 

And what's so bad about doubling down on weeding out officers unfit to wear the badge? 
Not a damn thing. 

These are just such sensible suggestions that are necessary to repair a widespread mistrust. 
Various departments have implemented such measures before to moderate temporary success within their communities -  and this is a prime time for a larger and more widespread effort.

There you go again, you don't need to add training when the original training was correct but not followed. Millions of these interactions occur every year without this outcome, so clearly what they are doing now works in 99.9999999 percent of all cases. Acting outside of additional training is no different than his acting outside of his original training, training doesn't stop people from not doing what they are trained to do. To say it clearly, it's not the lack of training that caused this, it was the lack of character of the individuals who did it. Wasting time and resources to tell cops "Do it the way we showed you the first time" isn't' the answer, publicly prosecuting those who violate their training is.

As for getting rid of him sooner I'm in agreement. I want the police highly restrained and completely de-militarized.

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