(05-29-2020, 04:47 PM)JagJohn Wrote:

(05-29-2020, 04:18 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: I would guess around 1970 or so.  It certainly is an "imaginary problem" in 2020.

Thank you for answering! Finally someone with a pair.

I guess your argument is that after the civil rights movement America essentially became a place that was "legally equal", and therefore racial injustice ceased to be a problem. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm sure we have all seen, heard, learnt, (experienced in some cases) enough about the civil rights era to agree that there were many people in America who held strongly racist attitudes, and fought against civil rights. I imagine we can all agree on this, but I've overestimated people before, so, again, let me know if I'm wrong.

So the obvious question remains: what happened to those (many) people who held racist beliefs at that time? Did they suddenly stop being racist because the argument for civil rights won? Were they suddenly convinced that they had been wrong all along? Did they stop sharing their ideas, teaching their children, treating people differently, at that moment in time?

No.  I'm not going to deny that there are in fact still people that hold racist beliefs.  However, I would estimate that the percentage is VERY small.  I know people around my age (mid 50's) that have learned that racist ideas were wrong.  Their elders (parents, relatives, etc.) might not have.  I know that my great aunt used to call black people "coloreds" until the day that she died.  There was no changing a 90 year old woman's mind about that.

I would guess that most people age 60 or less don't believe or look at race/color the way that they did pre-1970 or so.

As far as "racial injustice", I don't think that it's a real "problem" today.  Everyone has the same opportunity to achieve (or not) whatever they want to achieve.  A poor black kid growing up poor in a ghetto has the ability to become an award winning neurosurgeon. - Ben Carson

A black woman who grew up in Birmingham, Alabama when segregation was still a thing became Secretary of State. - Condoleezza Rice.

A poor black man grew up to become the CEO of a major food chain. - Herman Cain

People need to get rid of the whole "victim" deal, especially with regards to race.

Since I answered your question why not answer what I have been asking?  Regarding this whole case, why did the officers take the suspect down to the ground and why were they restraining him the way that they were (as shown in the publicly released videos/pictures)?  Why is that part left out of any video clips or pictures?

I would put money on it that the reason they did that wasn't because of his race or skin color.  There had to be a reason.

And before anyone says that I'm justifying or condoning the actions that the officers took, I am not.  I'm just questioning why they did what they did and what led up to it.  That part hasn't been presented yet in the court of public opinion.

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