(05-30-2020, 12:09 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(05-30-2020, 11:35 AM)Last42min Wrote: Miss what point? I know that Floyd's death was tragic and unnecessary. I have no problem with wanting police departments to do better. Every police department should be reexamining their practices to try to avoid something similar like this happening in the future. In fact, I bet we will see policies being enacted across the nation that ban the use of using the neck as a controlling point. We should always be refining our strategies, so I'm not arguing it's pointless to want reform.

I point to the numbers to show 2 things: the actual probability and therefore effectiveness of current strategies used by the police AND the disproportionate coverage/outrage is with regards to the issue. That's it. I would like to see media and politicians tamp down their rhetoric. I think it's the much bigger culprit in deteriorating race relations.

As to the news of the rioters, it doesn't surprise me. Antifa is a real problem. I am making an assumption here, but they are the main group in the US that has been comfortable with violence and destruction. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see them mobilizing at the first cause that can justify their methods.

I applaud your first two paragraphs here  - but I'll go ahead and answer the question anyway. 

Missing the point that it's not about explaining away the problem with numbers that say incidents are not widespread. It's not about explaining it away by pointing out the way the issues are blown out of proportion. 
It's about recognizing and fixing the divide already caused by the sum total of all these things  -- racially motivated injustices, wrongful deaths, police brutality, the media's "disproportionalizing" of incidents,  and the room for improvement within our police forces however small it may be statistically. 

I'm just the guy over here yelling, "why is everyone trying to explain this away instead of fixing it?"

12 pages in and you've still yet to objectively isolate an it.  You have a right to feel however you want, but in order to have meaningful common citizenship there has to be a shared commitment to rational expressions of what is true.  Otherwise your nebulous "feelings" are NO DIFFERENT or more relevant than the feelings of a David Duke.

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