(05-31-2020, 07:06 AM)jj82284 Wrote:

(05-30-2020, 10:44 PM)Bullseye Wrote: But accepting, at face value your ludicrous assertion that most racism ended circa 1970 with the passage of the Civil Rights laws, it doesn't address the lingering effect that pre 1970 discrimination has.  A key to wealth accumulation is the acquisition of real property.  With redlining, the ability of African Americans to have access to loans to start businesses and acquire houses was constrained.  Furthermore, to the extent African Americans could obtain mortgages, their options were limited to areas with suppressed property values.  That limited generational wealth.   Furthermore the fact that it took a series of comprehensive federal legislation and Supreme Court decisions (Not traditional notions of common human decency or Christian values) to eliminate racism from the country speaks volumes.

As to traditional notions of common human decency or values, that's an insult to all those who of their own volition fought and died for the ideal of common freedom since the inception of this country, specifically those who don't look like us who died in their teens to reunite the union, advance civil rights, oppose the ideals of past generations and embrace people who were different.  And ultimately, the decisions of the supreme court and the legislation passed (starting with the slave amendments through the 60's) were a reflection of the economic realities won by black Americans that sacraficed more than you and I will ever know to bring forth talent, goods and services that created demand from every ilk in this country.

Complete [BLEEP].

I am eternally grateful to abolitionists like John Brown, founding members of the NAACP, the white freedom riders of the Civil Rights era, and countless others, to those whites speaking out against the injustice we've seen in the Floyd murder.  But think about what you are saying.  If this country were truly governed by traditional notions of common human decency, would their sacrifices have even been necessary?  Would there have been a Confederacy and a civil war over slavery?  Would the supreme court cases and the Civil Rights legislation have been necessary? 

No, they wouldn't, unless you consider comprehensive racism to be consistent with traditional notions of common human decency.

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