(05-31-2020, 06:37 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(05-31-2020, 06:14 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I going to stop right there. African-Americans are not a homogeneous group, and no one gets to speak for all of them. If some white [BLEEP] thought he got to speak for me I'd tell him to [BLEEP] right off. The idea that all black people are or should be the same is ridiculous. There is no "black leader" because there is not united black group. While some hustlers might make that claim, that claim is nothing more that hot air.

Bullseye is only saying that Last42 does not get to pick who Bullseye should vote for or financially support, in terms of politicians or clergy.

If you met a Norwegian guy at the bar and started talking politics with him, would you take very kindly to him saying, "you guys should have voted for goldwater instead" or "you guys should have voted for Humphrey instead"? 
You wouldn't.
Because regardless of party affiliation, as a Norwegian, that is not his choice to make. Also, in all likelihood, you were not alive then, and in any case it was 50 years ago. So don't go spouting off about "Y'all would be better off if y'all had let Malcolm live."

Actually, both of you are right, and it's my fault for not expressing myself more effectively.

Blacks are NOT a monolith and I said as much in an earlier post.  Furthermore we have no "black leader elections."  There are those who evolve to have a voice that reaches more people in one way or another.  As I have stated in various ways, conservatives try to stifle our voices when they don't readily capitulate to racism and promote those who do (Sowell, Armstrong Williams, jj).

However, to whatever degree there are "black leaders" or "black spokesmen," our representatives are our choice.  Like any other marketplace of ideas, if an African American voices an opinion on a given topic, we will accept or reject his message accordingly, which is why the overwhelming majority of African Americans reject, the Armstrong Williams and Thomas Sowell's of the world.

Furthermore, while last 42's post tries, in some way for constructive dialogue, it's still largely silent on how African Americans are supposed to acceptably voice dissent.

  He talks about new leadership, rejecting gangs and the welfare state, but says nothing about voicing dissent against racism.

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