(06-02-2020, 05:05 PM)Last42min Wrote: Add to that the fact that I mentioned rejecting gangs as a form of self-policing, not as an ideal. I even clarified why it was in there and apologized if the context was lost, and he still uses it to support his narrative. Bullseye is an intelligent dude, but he's not arguing in good faith right now. And, while it doesn't really matter, I was having this same discussion in the Kaep thread. I pointed out the same two things I have always addressed: The narrative and the way progressives shape it. The black community continues to be USED by a people that are promising a Utopia, but have no method for actually accomplishing it, and a history that suggests the exact opposite. Impoverished black communities are a shining example progressive idealism, and the result was brought about directly by progressive policies. The leaders and voices that serve as a mouthpiece get rich. The rest stay poor. There is no way to escape the snare of social welfare. They lose their families and religion. Crime ramps up to create wealth. Status is based on group identities. I've basically described Soviet Russia and all of it's union. Current day China is no different, just we don't actually hear about it. This "protest" has been hijacked by the same people who want to see a socialist US. Guess what? None of this will change when the revolution comes. They'll just be better about locking up and destroying dissidents. How much history does one need to read before they see the cycle?