(06-03-2020, 07:06 PM)JagJohn Wrote:

(06-03-2020, 05:34 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Can you explain what exactly "white privilege" is?  I mean other than a liberal fantasy.

Is/was it possible for a young black girl growing up in the era of the civil rights movement to succeed?

Is/was it possible for a poor young black man growing up in a ghetto in a single parent household to succeed?

Is/was it possible for a poor black man born in the 1940's and raised in the south to succeed?

What about a poor Hispanic (Mexican) male growing up through the 1920's and 1930's?  Could he not succeed without the so-called "white privilege"?  What about his off-spring?

Depending on what your definition of "white privilege" is, there is no way possible that any of these people ever had it.

Obviously all of those people were capable of succeeding in life. Everyone is capable of succeeding. But some people have fewer obstacles that they need to overcome, and some people have more. 

I assume we can agree on at least one form of privilege. A child born to very wealthy parents has a far greater chance of what we typically call "success" than a child born to parents in poverty. That is privilege of wealth. We can agree on that basic point right?

The idea of white privilege can be expressed as this: if you were to take two children, raised them identically in the same conditions, but one had black skin and one had white skin, the black child would have more obstacles to overcome than the white child would to achieve 'success'. Obviously, in this case, that obstacle is racism.

To be clear, white privilege does not mean this person will succeed, or that person will not succeed. There are obviously many more things that factor in, and many of them are massively more significant than skin colour.

I know you will not agree with me, because you deny that racism is still a problem in American society. If you don't recognize that racism exists, you obviously will not recognize that white privilege exists.