(06-04-2020, 09:34 PM)JagJohn Wrote: And one final point about the "few bad apples" argument. George Floyd died because one officer knelt on his neck for 8 minutes and 47 seconds. He was surrounded by 3 other officers, who did nothing to stop him killing this man. Multiple onlookers repeatedly said that he was dying, it was obvious. The officer continued to kneel on his neck for almost 3 minutes after his body had gone limp and lifeless, still none of the other 3 officers stopped him. That makes 4 "bad apples". What a terribly tragic coincidence that all 4 officers at the scene that day happened to be from this tiny tiny minority of "bad apple" cops. Or maybe the problem is more widespread than you are making out?

To be clear, I'm not suggesting that all 4 of these cops were dispicable racist thugs who set out that day to take a black man's life. I am saying that this incident shows how their are clear and obvious problems with how the police operate. Too often these situations are made worse by the actions of police; this needs to be the basis of police reform.

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(06-04-2020, 09:22 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Excuses excuses.

Wow, you really didn't read anything I just wrote, did you?