(06-07-2020, 08:12 PM)mikesez Wrote: (06-07-2020, 07:55 PM)jj82284 Wrote: In reality... He's not a martyr. It doesn't matter in the context of his killing, what happened to him was murder and should be punished as such. That said, as a person of faith I was disturbed at the level of idolatry and deification that surrounds someone who strong arm robbed and pistol whipped a pregnant woman. When he passed away he was high on fentanyl and meth amphetamines. If he was driving, then that means he was driving under the influence of an elicit substance and could have truly killed anyone at random. He's not a hero, he's not a martyr. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time doing the wrong thing.
To perpetuate the idea of racial motivation, there is always a ploy by the left to glorify those who die @ the hands of police. In the case of Michael Brown, we heard for months "young man, about to start college that week." Then it turns out that he's on video strong arm robbing a store, assaulting the store clerk and he was the subject of the BOLO that Darren Wilson responded too. Then we find out that all the people who testified under oath about "Hands Up Don't Shoot" lied about it and had to be allowed to recant their testimony. Some of those who falsely testified to the Grand Jury flat out admitted they weren't even there when the shooting took place. Those people should have been charged for perjury.
In the case of Freddie Gray, you have a known drug dealer turned into a folk hero.
Ahmaud Aubrey, news outlets are still pushing this "out for a jog" narrative, when video clearly shows that he was fleeing a potential crime scene.
The media doesn't care if the country burns down. They are safe behind their locked doors and gated communities with their 8 figure salaries. Those of us who have to live in the world have to suffer the consequences of their ideology.
Dude.. we don't know why there was fentanyl in his system. It may have been prescribed to him. Even if we knew for sure he was using it recreationally, it changes nothing. He should not be dead, not the way he died anyhow. You agree. But there are many others who also should not be dead. For me this is mainly about reforming the police, and making social work a separate task from policing. I think you agree with that too. The part you disagree about is adding it to the ongoing list of racial grievances out there. I do think it belongs on the list, and I think the list is still worth discussing. But can we just agree to disagree about that for now?
Nah, I'm not in a merciful mood today. There have been too many studies done to disprove your opinion, even those conducted by left leaning organizations. In 2019 there were 9 shootings of unarmed black men by police and even within that subset, most were deemed justified. The rate of police shootings for black men is down 75% from the 60s while white shootings are flatlined. What list?
This idea that anything bad that happens is the result of some larger conspiracy or that there is a boogeyman in every closet for progressives to kill is folley. As for reforming the police? In the case we're all debating the Minn PD was already undergoing a reform lead by a new black chief of police appointed by a far left city council, under a far left mayor, under the supervision of a far left state attorney genearl and a far left Governor. What more REFORM.
This is the trick of the left, you leave them alone to run their own affairs, 60 years later-no utopia. What's the response? "Well if only we had 80 years and more money" we passed the income tax in 1918. We were promised this egalitarian society. Now we have 72 thousand pages of "fairness" and these people are still RANTING about income inequality. We collect racial data at the federal level for every person that signs a mortgage. The legal documentation is the size of a small book. The federal government through through the GSEs buys the vast majority of mortgage paper to repackage for the open market. And still, 45 years after the CRA was passed you have the former POTUS talking about redlining. You never hear that "housing policy" was the main area of his "community organizing." 700 billion of tarp, 800 billion of economic stimulus, trillions of dollars in quantative easing, FHA loans, VA loans, Dodd Frank, etc. What do we have to show for it? Their still crying about "housing inequality." my gosh.
I just want someone from the woke progressive left to explain to me, why is Japanese Puerto Rican income Gap greater than the White Black Gap? I'd like to know. Germany was bombed to the GROUND. Britain won two world wars. Why did Germany pass Britain as an economic power? Anyone? Please. I want to hear all the theories about German Privilige after being razed to the ground and becoming the skunk of the world.
