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"protester" in Buffalo was dangerous Antifa plant

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(06-10-2020, 04:35 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(06-10-2020, 04:21 PM)Jags Wrote: Shouldn’t a 75 year old man be “adult” enough to listen to basic instructions?  Police clearing the street.  Yeah, let’s hold our ground.  Seriously, what else to you expect.  

A good portion of this “brutality” BS Wouldn’t be an issue if people just listened to an officer and complied to sort out whatever it is or accept getting arrested for whatever may have been done.  

Sadly, I’m informed I’m wrong because of rare cases of true “bad cops”.  For crying out loud, “COPS” and “Live PD” have been pulled off air.  Just wow!


It's unfortunately not BS.  

41 NYPD cops are being prosecuted for assault right now by state prosecutors for their actions during these recent protests alone.   You don't think that number is too high? 

What would be the acceptable number?  

What's the acceptable number of deaths due to improper action by police? 

What if we could make that number smaller by requiring cops to have more hours of training than we do a barber? 

Do you know how many cops in America have been formally charged with domestic assault? 
(hint: it's a high number)  Yet 28% of those formally charged with abusing a family member are still policing our streets. 

It's not BS.  There are too many incidents of this crap and it's VERY clear the public has had enough of it. 
Reform will be coming to many of our police departments soon and there is zero reason to lament any attempt to improve the vetting and training of the brave men and women we are intended to trust behind that badge. 

If you think vetting and training are fine right now, you shouldn't have a problem with making those things even better. 

If it's "just a few bad apples" then great. We'll have fewer [BLEEP] bad apples soon. They never should have been allowed to wear the badge in the first place, and we can choose and train their replacements more carefully.

Yes, police need to be held accountable.

1. A law overturning the qualified immunity principle would help. Right now there is one in congress. Since the SCOTUS made up the principle, it may take a Constitutional amendment to overturn.


2. Eliminating police unions (what Camden did) would help, but good luck getting that past Democrat strongholds.

3. Better vetting would help somewhat, but I doubt many of the police being called out here would be eliminated by better vetting. The unions are protecting bad cops who are fired by not allowing their records to be published. If that were changed vetting would be more effective.

Adding another XX hours of training in how to treat minorities (or old men refusing to follow orders) is a feel-good solution that would solve nothing.



                                                                          

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homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-10-2020, 08:32 AM
RE: "protester" in Buffalo was dangerous Antifa plant - by MalabarJag - 06-10-2020, 05:48 PM



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