(06-15-2020, 10:06 AM)JagJohn Wrote:

(06-15-2020, 07:23 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I really struggle understanding people who buy into promises of perfection. Every issue that elevates socialist policies is based on the lie that our system is bad, but their system will be perfect. It doesn't matter that we live in a nation of 350 million people and have extremely low rates of police brutality, racism, and violence. That we have achieved relatively low rates of crime. That we live in one of the most diverse countries on the planet. That our poorest people are among the wealthiest in the world. That socialism has failed every where it's been tried. That there will be no nation to save us from tyranny should this new Utopia fail us. None of that matters, because people get sold a product that exploits emotions and promises us perfection, with zero proof.

You are more obsessed with socialism than anyone I've ever met. What does any of that have to do with this thread? Show me someone who is "promising perfection"...

That is what is being sold. 

I have, for years, been studying history, philosophy, and politics. I have known that this was a push from the left, but it has only been recently that the veil has been pulled back far enough that I see ingrained these groups have become in American institutions and how close we are to a political revolution. I admit I have been obsessed as of late. I have come to believe the  tide is inevitable, and it is disheartening. Not sure it will matter moving forward.

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