(06-16-2020, 09:55 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(06-16-2020, 08:52 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: I am Gen X and love my country. Math is hard.

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I believe Cleatwood is a teacher, which explains why he probably takes offense to the concept of educational institutions being part of the "problem".

I’m a PE teacher and you literally have no clue what good teachers do on a daily basis. Your takes are skewed by what you see on Fox News. Teachers are not the problem in this country. The problem is when one group believes they are “more American” than another which is exactly what you’re saying.

There are millions of amazing teachers all across this country who devote their lives to making this world a better place. 

But most of all, teachers are not parents. So if you’re relying on teachers to do everything that a parent should do, you’ve already lost. I talk about good exercise and good eating habits every day but unless it’s reinforced at home, it falls on deaf ears.

I completely agree with your last line. This is a problem that has been exacerbated by the dependence on a 2 person income to remain in middle class. 

That said, my experience as a teacher opened my eyes to the ways children are indoctrinated. The biggest factor is that progressive teachers have more freedom to speak their point of view, so they are more emboldened in their willingness to engage students without fear of retaliation. Anecdotally speaking, it seemed like most conservative teachers I met were Christians, too, so a lot of their views are shaped from religion, which can't be taught publically. So you have progressive left teachers with freedom to speak their worldview and Christian conservatives who can't share theirs. There is a third set of teachers who are liberal, but that's a shrinking group.

As a tangent, I wish I had known how freaky teachers were when I was growing up.

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