Rayshard Brooks

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Rayshard Brooks

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06-16-2020, 07:57 PM

(06-16-2020, 11:48 AM)mikesez Wrote: You are speculating about whether the things I propose would have worked in the situation.
That's besides my point. Completely besides it. They might have worked, or they might not.
My point is the man, who is now dead, deserved additional chances to live. Whether he would have taken those chances, that's up to him.
But instead the officer decided to offer no additional chances.

You spoke in absolutes. I refuted those absolutes. You're speculating, and I'm telling you you're wrong.

1. When he ran off, he proved he was a threat as he turned around to tase the officer.
2. It isn't a stretch to believe he would steal another weapon. He's already stolen one. His behavior proves that he's fully capable of doing that.
3. They couldn't prevent him from taking the taser, so why do you say they would have stopped him that time.
4. Taser didn't work on Brooks. The second officer already used his taser.
5. He wasn't close enough to use his baton.
6. Yelling "Don't move" as they do on TV rarely works, and all of those previous commands didn't work.

Which part is speculation?

You don't use force to give them a chance to comply. You use force to give yourself a chance not to be seriously injured or killed. They gave him plenty of chances, and he decided that he wouldn't take them up on that offer. The officers not once pulled their weapon until he decided to use the taser against him. Only after George Floyd's death would people assume an officer shouldn't shoot someone that points a taser at them after said person punched and hit those officers with that taser. All of your solutions require that Brooks act counter to his demonstrated behavior and for the officers to assume all of the risk.

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Rayshard Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-13-2020, 08:11 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-13-2020, 09:20 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-13-2020, 10:30 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-13-2020, 10:56 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-13-2020, 11:14 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 12:35 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 08:06 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 09:05 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 03:46 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by HURRICANE!!! - 06-14-2020, 09:25 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 09:37 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-13-2020, 11:00 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 12:13 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-14-2020, 02:02 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 02:23 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 02:36 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-14-2020, 03:29 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 06-14-2020, 12:20 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Jagsfan32277 - 06-14-2020, 12:37 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 01:05 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-14-2020, 08:46 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 10:29 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-14-2020, 12:41 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 01:46 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 02:30 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Jagsfan32277 - 06-14-2020, 05:53 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-14-2020, 06:44 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 08:58 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 01:35 PM

Copycat - by copycat - 06-14-2020, 01:44 PM

RE: Copycat - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 02:01 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-14-2020, 02:07 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 02:16 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 04:02 PM

homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-14-2020, 04:06 PM

RE: homebiscuit - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 04:23 PM

RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 06-14-2020, 04:44 PM

RE: homebiscuit - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 05:35 PM

RE: homebiscuit - by p_rushing - 06-14-2020, 07:02 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-15-2020, 06:55 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by homebiscuit - 06-14-2020, 10:36 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 11:48 AM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-14-2020, 01:52 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by The Drifter - 06-14-2020, 02:39 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 03:05 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-14-2020, 03:39 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 05:37 PM

homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-14-2020, 08:49 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-14-2020, 06:05 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 06:14 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 06:21 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-14-2020, 06:22 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 06:43 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Cleatwood - 06-14-2020, 07:27 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by lastonealive - 06-14-2020, 07:37 PM

RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Bchbunnie4 - 06-14-2020, 07:37 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 07:51 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-14-2020, 08:11 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-15-2020, 07:23 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-15-2020, 10:04 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-15-2020, 10:06 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-15-2020, 01:32 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-15-2020, 10:57 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-15-2020, 11:07 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-15-2020, 11:11 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-15-2020, 11:27 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-15-2020, 11:32 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-15-2020, 12:15 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by KodiakJag - 06-16-2020, 12:03 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by americus 2.0 - 06-15-2020, 01:55 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-15-2020, 02:11 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-15-2020, 04:30 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-15-2020, 05:21 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-16-2020, 05:09 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-15-2020, 02:14 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-15-2020, 05:27 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-15-2020, 06:28 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by The Real Marty - 06-16-2020, 06:01 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-16-2020, 08:32 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JaguarKick - 06-16-2020, 09:42 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 09:50 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-16-2020, 10:13 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 11:01 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-16-2020, 10:09 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-16-2020, 11:26 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-16-2020, 11:44 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 11:46 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-16-2020, 12:17 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 12:49 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-16-2020, 04:36 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 05:49 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 05:54 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 05:58 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 07:52 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 08:11 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 03:37 PM

Copycat - by copycat - 06-16-2020, 09:45 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 04:59 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 11:48 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-16-2020, 02:43 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 05:15 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-16-2020, 07:57 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 09:33 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-16-2020, 10:38 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 10:56 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jagwired - 06-16-2020, 11:54 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-16-2020, 02:17 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 05:10 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 05:20 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 05:24 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 05:27 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-16-2020, 06:37 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-16-2020, 03:13 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by americus 2.0 - 06-16-2020, 03:21 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 04:11 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 05:09 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jagsfan32277 - 06-16-2020, 09:54 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 09:59 PM

Copycat - by copycat - 06-16-2020, 10:12 PM

RE: Copycat - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 10:20 PM

RE: Copycat - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 10:40 PM

Copycat - by copycat - 06-16-2020, 10:44 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 03:45 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-17-2020, 03:47 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 03:49 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-17-2020, 03:54 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 03:54 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-17-2020, 03:57 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 04:02 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 04:07 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-17-2020, 04:18 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-17-2020, 07:09 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by rollerjag - 06-17-2020, 08:08 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-17-2020, 04:19 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-17-2020, 04:23 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-17-2020, 04:28 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 04:45 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 04:53 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 04:24 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-17-2020, 04:52 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 03:56 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 04:08 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 04:37 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 04:45 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 04:57 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 05:04 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 05:16 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-17-2020, 04:51 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 04:55 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-17-2020, 05:22 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-17-2020, 07:09 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 05:31 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 06:36 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-17-2020, 06:45 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-17-2020, 07:10 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-17-2020, 07:17 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 08:40 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-17-2020, 08:57 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 09:44 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-17-2020, 10:10 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Cleatwood - 06-17-2020, 05:35 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by MalabarJag - 06-17-2020, 06:02 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 06:46 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-17-2020, 07:18 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-17-2020, 09:27 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-17-2020, 09:46 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-17-2020, 10:16 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-17-2020, 09:48 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-17-2020, 10:09 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by MalabarJag - 06-18-2020, 06:51 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-18-2020, 09:44 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-18-2020, 12:55 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-18-2020, 01:00 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 11:03 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-17-2020, 11:51 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by americus 2.0 - 06-18-2020, 12:23 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-18-2020, 01:44 AM

homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-18-2020, 07:33 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-18-2020, 09:11 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jagwired - 06-18-2020, 09:38 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-18-2020, 02:47 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-18-2020, 12:20 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by americus 2.0 - 06-18-2020, 02:49 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-18-2020, 02:50 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-19-2020, 06:22 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-19-2020, 06:38 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-18-2020, 05:58 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-19-2020, 09:56 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-19-2020, 09:59 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-19-2020, 10:03 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-19-2020, 10:11 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-19-2020, 10:18 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-19-2020, 09:04 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-24-2020, 06:38 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-19-2020, 08:08 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-19-2020, 10:00 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-19-2020, 08:53 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 06-20-2020, 09:37 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-20-2020, 11:50 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-20-2020, 01:11 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-21-2020, 06:47 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-19-2020, 08:14 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-19-2020, 08:25 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-19-2020, 08:29 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by HURRICANE!!! - 06-19-2020, 10:36 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-19-2020, 11:43 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by MalabarJag - 06-19-2020, 03:47 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-19-2020, 11:26 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-19-2020, 05:27 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 06-19-2020, 06:02 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-19-2020, 07:02 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-19-2020, 09:22 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 06-20-2020, 09:44 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by copycat - 06-20-2020, 02:28 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-20-2020, 08:55 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-20-2020, 10:22 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-23-2020, 06:15 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-23-2020, 06:36 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-23-2020, 06:47 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-23-2020, 07:40 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-23-2020, 07:46 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-24-2020, 12:43 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-25-2020, 11:20 AM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-25-2020, 02:23 PM

RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-25-2020, 10:08 PM

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