(06-16-2020, 09:33 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(06-16-2020, 07:57 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: You spoke in absolutes. I refuted those absolutes. You're speculating, and I'm telling you you're wrong.

1. When he ran off, he proved he was a threat as he turned around to tase the officer.
2. It isn't a stretch to believe he would steal another weapon. He's already stolen one. His behavior proves that he's fully capable of doing that.
3. They couldn't prevent him from taking the taser, so why do you say they would have stopped him that time.
4. Taser didn't work on Brooks. The second officer already used his taser.
5. He wasn't close enough to use his baton.
6. Yelling "Don't move" as they do on TV rarely works, and all of those previous commands didn't work. 

Which part is speculation?

You don't use force to give them a chance to comply. You use force to give yourself a chance not to be seriously injured or killed. They gave him plenty of chances, and he decided that he wouldn't take them up on that offer. The officers not once pulled their weapon until he decided to use the taser against him. Only after George Floyd's death would people assume an officer shouldn't shoot someone that points a taser at them after said person punched and hit those officers with that taser. All of your solutions require that Brooks act counter to his demonstrated behavior and for the officers to assume all of the risk.

Predicting his behavior is speculation.
You insist that he didn't deserve more chances because you speculate that he wouldn't have used them well.
At the moment he got shot, he does not seem to be a deadly threat to anyone.
He deserved to have more chances to live until his behavior actually became a serious threat to another person's life. He deserved to live until he actually threatened the life of somebody.   He never got close to that point.  The cops knew what was in his hand.

We don't have to predict his behavior, we know what he did.

How many chances are enough to finally decide to do the right thing? By your logic, as long as he didn't shot someone he should continue to keep getting another chance to stop and allow himself to be arrested for the rest of his life? As long as you don't shoot someone, commit whatever crimes you want and you will keep getting chances to do better and you can turn yourself in when you feel deep down you have used up your 2nd chances.


That will never work, proof in point all the kids growing up to be leftist that never had any consequences growing up. They got away with everything and don't understand people in the real world don't let them do what they want and there are consequences for your actions.

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