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Rayshard Brooks


(06-17-2020, 04:57 PM)JackCity Wrote:
(06-17-2020, 04:45 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Neither officer "stood on his shoulders".


I just watched the surveillance video from the Wendy's that gives a fairly clear picture of the scene.  I'm not going to post the video here or link to it, but if you go to youtube and search "Wendy's Surveillance Video - OIS Atlanta - 6.12.20" it's there.  Go to around 28:30 in the video to see the exchange.

The DA clearly mis-characterized what happened.  The officer fired on him after a clear turn towards him with "a" weapon that made a flash.  There is no way that the officer knows "without a shadow of doubt" that it was a taser and not a firearm.

The officer that shot him didn't "kick him while he was dying", he appeared to be kicking the weapon away from him.  The second officer didn't "stand on his shoulders", he held a foot on one shoulder to ensure that he didn't make any sudden or unexpected move (pretty much standard procedure) while it appeared that he was quickly checked for any other weapons.

The officers didn't render any first aide until backup arrived at the scene (again pretty much standard procedure).

In my opinion the DA way over-stated what happened and way over-charged the officer.  My best guess is that he did it for a couple of reasons.

1.  Placate the already "enraged" public.

2.  They don't want this to go to trial because the charges would never hold up.  They are probably hoping for a plea down in charges in order to get a conviction.

If the case does go to trial and assuming that they are able to get an impartial jury, there is no way that they can convict.

You can pretty clearly see the taser fall away from his hands as he falls. Did officer did not "kick" it away. there are no reports of him having another weapon on him.

(06-17-2020, 04:53 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: So what is the likely thing?  An officer that was just fighting for his life against a much bigger assailant trying to get a weapon away from him, or him kicking the guy while he's down bleeding out?

He didn't have a weapon on the ground

If you look at it full screen you can see the weapon that falls to the ground was the taser that the officer dropped when he drew his weapon.  When he first went down it appears that the officer was trying to take something away from him, then just kicked it.


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Rayshard Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-13-2020, 08:11 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-13-2020, 09:20 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-13-2020, 10:30 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-13-2020, 10:56 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-13-2020, 11:14 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 12:35 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 08:06 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 09:05 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 03:46 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by HURRICANE!!! - 06-14-2020, 09:25 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 09:37 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-13-2020, 11:00 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 12:13 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-14-2020, 02:02 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 02:23 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 02:36 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-14-2020, 03:29 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 06-14-2020, 12:20 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Jagsfan32277 - 06-14-2020, 12:37 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 01:05 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-14-2020, 08:46 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 10:29 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-14-2020, 12:41 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 01:46 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 02:30 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Jagsfan32277 - 06-14-2020, 05:53 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-14-2020, 06:44 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 08:58 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 01:35 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 06-14-2020, 01:44 PM
RE: Copycat - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 02:01 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-14-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 02:16 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 04:02 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-14-2020, 04:06 PM
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RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 06-14-2020, 04:44 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 05:35 PM
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RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-15-2020, 06:55 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by homebiscuit - 06-14-2020, 10:36 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 11:48 AM
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RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 03:05 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-14-2020, 03:39 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 05:37 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-14-2020, 08:49 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-14-2020, 06:05 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 06:14 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 06:21 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-14-2020, 06:22 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 06:43 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Cleatwood - 06-14-2020, 07:27 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by lastonealive - 06-14-2020, 07:37 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Bchbunnie4 - 06-14-2020, 07:37 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 07:51 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-14-2020, 08:11 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-15-2020, 07:23 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-15-2020, 10:04 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-15-2020, 10:06 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-15-2020, 01:32 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-15-2020, 10:57 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-15-2020, 11:07 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-15-2020, 11:11 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-15-2020, 11:27 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-15-2020, 11:32 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-15-2020, 12:15 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by KodiakJag - 06-16-2020, 12:03 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by americus 2.0 - 06-15-2020, 01:55 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-15-2020, 02:11 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-15-2020, 04:30 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-15-2020, 05:21 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-16-2020, 05:09 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-15-2020, 02:14 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-15-2020, 05:27 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-15-2020, 06:28 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by The Real Marty - 06-16-2020, 06:01 AM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JaguarKick - 06-16-2020, 09:42 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 09:50 AM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 11:01 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-16-2020, 10:09 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-16-2020, 11:26 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-16-2020, 11:44 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 11:46 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-16-2020, 12:17 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-16-2020, 04:36 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 05:49 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 05:54 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 07:52 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 08:11 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 03:37 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 06-16-2020, 09:45 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 04:59 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 11:48 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-16-2020, 02:43 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 05:15 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-16-2020, 07:57 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 09:33 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-16-2020, 10:38 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 10:56 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jagwired - 06-16-2020, 11:54 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-16-2020, 02:17 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 05:10 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 05:24 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 05:27 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-16-2020, 06:37 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-16-2020, 03:13 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 04:11 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 05:09 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jagsfan32277 - 06-16-2020, 09:54 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 09:59 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 06-16-2020, 10:12 PM
RE: Copycat - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 10:20 PM
RE: Copycat - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 10:40 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 06-16-2020, 10:44 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 03:45 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-17-2020, 03:47 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 03:49 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-17-2020, 03:54 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 03:54 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-17-2020, 03:57 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 04:02 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 04:07 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 04:45 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 04:53 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 04:24 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 03:56 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 04:37 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 04:45 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 04:57 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 05:04 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 05:16 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-17-2020, 04:51 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 04:55 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-17-2020, 07:09 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 05:31 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 06:36 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-17-2020, 06:45 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-17-2020, 07:10 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 08:40 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 09:44 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by MalabarJag - 06-17-2020, 06:02 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 06:46 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-17-2020, 07:18 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-18-2020, 12:55 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-18-2020, 01:00 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 11:03 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-17-2020, 11:51 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-18-2020, 01:44 AM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-18-2020, 09:11 AM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-19-2020, 10:03 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-19-2020, 10:11 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-19-2020, 10:18 AM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-24-2020, 06:38 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-19-2020, 08:08 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-19-2020, 10:00 AM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-19-2020, 08:25 AM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by HURRICANE!!! - 06-19-2020, 10:36 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-19-2020, 11:43 AM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-19-2020, 11:26 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 06-19-2020, 06:02 PM
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RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-20-2020, 08:55 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-20-2020, 10:22 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-23-2020, 06:15 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-23-2020, 06:36 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-23-2020, 06:47 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-23-2020, 07:40 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-23-2020, 07:46 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-24-2020, 12:43 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-25-2020, 11:20 AM
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