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Rayshard Brooks

(This post was last modified: 06-20-2020, 10:23 AM by Lucky2Last.)

No, I was just using an example of something terrible that happens in a nation of 350 million people that is rare, but not actually proof of any kind of systemic injustice. If it made national headlines EVERY time, we would think it was a much bigger problem than it actually was. I used a different example before, but kidnappings of children by unknown persons in the US is really, really rare. However, the "missing" on the milk cartons and national headlines when it happens causes people to believe it is far more widespread. We, as humans, have a hard time removing bias from reason, and when something is force fed to a nation, they will begin to believe it, even if it isn't likely. Once a belief is imprinted into our subconscious, facts don't really matter, and we are all susceptible to that kind of bias.

I agree with you that there needs to be more consistency in policing. I am definitely open to the idea of police reform. Years ago, I was advocating against the militarization of the police. I think they need more training, especially in deescalation and public service, but also in physical training and proper use of force. I think they need more time off, especially after dealing with stressful situations. I think they need better counseling. I am also open to creating very strict guidelines as to when the use of force is warranted. That said, they also need to be given some leeway in these cases where a split second decision needs to be made. We could never have a police force if perfection is a requirement.

The big positive from this situation is that the national eye is fixated on police reform, and that is good. I think an argument could be made that we wouldn't have this conversation if there wasn't such a uprising after the death of George Floyd. The negative is that this conversation can not limited to the institution itself. Citizens also need to understand the proper way to interact with the police. When I watch the video you posted, I would have shot that dude. Anyone that is chasing a cop is threatening his life. You don't have to be kind to a police officer, but it can not be acceptable to assault them. The ramification, either way, is too severe. I don't believe it is fair to completely put the onus for a successful interaction on one person. All of modern civilization is built on social contracts that rely on self-restraint. If the citizens aren't willing to restrain themselves, there can be no police force.

This is not just an institutional problem, but a societal one as well.
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Rayshard Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-13-2020, 08:11 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-13-2020, 09:20 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-13-2020, 10:30 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-13-2020, 10:56 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-13-2020, 11:14 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 12:35 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 08:06 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 09:05 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 03:46 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by HURRICANE!!! - 06-14-2020, 09:25 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 09:37 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-13-2020, 11:00 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 12:13 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-14-2020, 02:02 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 02:23 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 02:36 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-14-2020, 03:29 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 06-14-2020, 12:20 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Jagsfan32277 - 06-14-2020, 12:37 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 01:05 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-14-2020, 08:46 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 10:29 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-14-2020, 12:41 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 01:46 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 02:30 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Jagsfan32277 - 06-14-2020, 05:53 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-14-2020, 06:44 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 08:58 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 01:35 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 06-14-2020, 01:44 PM
RE: Copycat - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 02:01 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-14-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 02:16 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 04:02 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-14-2020, 04:06 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 04:23 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 06-14-2020, 04:44 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 05:35 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by p_rushing - 06-14-2020, 07:02 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-15-2020, 06:55 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by homebiscuit - 06-14-2020, 10:36 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 11:48 AM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-14-2020, 01:52 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by The Drifter - 06-14-2020, 02:39 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by TJBender - 06-14-2020, 03:05 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-14-2020, 03:39 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 05:37 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-14-2020, 08:49 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-14-2020, 06:05 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 06:14 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by JackCity - 06-14-2020, 06:21 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-14-2020, 06:22 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Sammy - 06-14-2020, 06:43 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Cleatwood - 06-14-2020, 07:27 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by lastonealive - 06-14-2020, 07:37 PM
RE: Rayshatd Brooks - by Bchbunnie4 - 06-14-2020, 07:37 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-14-2020, 07:51 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-14-2020, 08:11 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-15-2020, 07:23 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-15-2020, 10:04 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-15-2020, 10:06 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-15-2020, 01:32 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-15-2020, 10:57 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-15-2020, 11:07 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-15-2020, 11:11 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-15-2020, 11:27 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-15-2020, 11:32 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-15-2020, 12:15 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by KodiakJag - 06-16-2020, 12:03 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by americus 2.0 - 06-15-2020, 01:55 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-15-2020, 02:11 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-15-2020, 04:30 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-15-2020, 05:21 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-16-2020, 05:09 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-15-2020, 02:14 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-15-2020, 05:27 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-15-2020, 06:28 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by The Real Marty - 06-16-2020, 06:01 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-16-2020, 08:32 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JaguarKick - 06-16-2020, 09:42 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 09:50 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-16-2020, 10:13 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 11:01 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-16-2020, 10:09 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-16-2020, 11:26 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-16-2020, 11:44 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 11:46 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-16-2020, 12:17 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 12:49 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-16-2020, 04:36 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 05:49 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 05:54 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 05:58 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 07:52 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 08:11 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 03:37 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 06-16-2020, 09:45 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 04:59 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 11:48 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-16-2020, 02:43 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 05:15 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-16-2020, 07:57 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 09:33 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-16-2020, 10:38 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 10:56 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jagwired - 06-16-2020, 11:54 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-16-2020, 02:17 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 05:10 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 05:20 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-16-2020, 05:24 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 05:27 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-16-2020, 06:37 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-16-2020, 03:13 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by americus 2.0 - 06-16-2020, 03:21 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 04:11 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-16-2020, 05:09 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jagsfan32277 - 06-16-2020, 09:54 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 09:59 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 06-16-2020, 10:12 PM
RE: Copycat - by mikesez - 06-16-2020, 10:20 PM
RE: Copycat - by flsprtsgod - 06-16-2020, 10:40 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 06-16-2020, 10:44 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 03:45 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-17-2020, 03:47 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 03:49 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-17-2020, 03:54 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 03:54 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-17-2020, 03:57 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 04:02 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 04:07 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-17-2020, 04:18 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-17-2020, 07:09 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by rollerjag - 06-17-2020, 08:08 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-17-2020, 04:19 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-17-2020, 04:23 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-17-2020, 04:28 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 04:45 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 04:53 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 04:24 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-17-2020, 04:52 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 03:56 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 04:08 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 04:37 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 04:45 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 04:57 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 05:04 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 05:16 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-17-2020, 04:51 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 04:55 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-17-2020, 05:22 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-17-2020, 07:09 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 05:31 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-17-2020, 06:36 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-17-2020, 06:45 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-17-2020, 07:10 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-17-2020, 07:17 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 08:40 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-17-2020, 08:57 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 09:44 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-17-2020, 10:10 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Cleatwood - 06-17-2020, 05:35 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by MalabarJag - 06-17-2020, 06:02 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-17-2020, 06:46 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Sammy - 06-17-2020, 07:18 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-17-2020, 09:27 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-17-2020, 09:46 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by mikesez - 06-17-2020, 10:16 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-17-2020, 09:48 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-17-2020, 10:09 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by MalabarJag - 06-18-2020, 06:51 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-18-2020, 09:44 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-18-2020, 12:55 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-18-2020, 01:00 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-17-2020, 11:03 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-17-2020, 11:51 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by americus 2.0 - 06-18-2020, 12:23 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagJohn - 06-18-2020, 01:44 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 06-18-2020, 07:33 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-18-2020, 09:11 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jagwired - 06-18-2020, 09:38 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-18-2020, 02:47 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-18-2020, 12:20 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by americus 2.0 - 06-18-2020, 02:49 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-18-2020, 02:50 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-19-2020, 06:22 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-19-2020, 06:38 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-18-2020, 05:58 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-19-2020, 09:56 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-19-2020, 09:59 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-19-2020, 10:03 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-19-2020, 10:11 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-19-2020, 10:18 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-19-2020, 09:04 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jj82284 - 06-24-2020, 06:38 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-19-2020, 08:08 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-19-2020, 10:00 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-19-2020, 08:53 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 06-20-2020, 09:37 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-20-2020, 11:50 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-20-2020, 01:11 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TrivialPursuit - 06-21-2020, 06:47 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-19-2020, 08:14 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-19-2020, 08:25 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by StroudCrowd1 - 06-19-2020, 08:29 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by HURRICANE!!! - 06-19-2020, 10:36 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-19-2020, 11:43 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by MalabarJag - 06-19-2020, 03:47 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-19-2020, 11:26 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-19-2020, 05:27 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 06-19-2020, 06:02 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by flsprtsgod - 06-19-2020, 07:02 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-19-2020, 09:22 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 06-20-2020, 09:44 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by copycat - 06-20-2020, 02:28 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-20-2020, 08:55 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by Lucky2Last - 06-20-2020, 10:22 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-23-2020, 06:15 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-23-2020, 06:36 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-23-2020, 06:47 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by p_rushing - 06-23-2020, 07:40 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by TJBender - 06-23-2020, 07:46 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JagNGeorgia - 06-24-2020, 12:43 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-25-2020, 11:20 AM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by jagibelieve - 06-25-2020, 02:23 PM
RE: Rayshard Brooks - by JackCity - 06-25-2020, 10:08 PM



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