(07-22-2020, 09:45 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(07-22-2020, 09:11 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: This is what I'm talking about. For starters, I don't have to google disingenuous.

You think, because you argue by reading wiki articles, that all people do this. Do you know how much time I put into trying to understand our current cultural climate? I spend probably 20+ hours a week reading various philosophical and historical works, and listening to experts unpack similar concepts. I spend less time, but still a decent amount, following various trends in our nation, especially those movements that are  actively working to fundamentally dismantle the structure of the US government. This group is growing at an exponential rate, and I find it's movement into the mainstream alarming. These movements didn't just pop out of the ether. They are part of an ideological campaign that goes all the way back to the 1920's (further if you want to be technical).

I am very invested in understanding the framework that built our society. I have spent a considerable amount of time understanding where my views came from, and now I devote a LOT of time trying to understand where these alternative ideologies were formed. The more I peel back the layers of the onion, the more clearly I understand the views and goals of my ideological opponents. You don't do this, and it's obvious. You can't even watch an 8 minute video on the definition of socialism. You are so ignorant, but you masquerade like you have an understanding of something when you CLEARLY do not.

The word for that isn't disingenuous though.
You're saying I am ignorant and have too much self confidence.
A disingenuous person is very informed but pretends to be naive.
You're saying I'm the opposite of disingenuous.