(08-25-2020, 05:16 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(08-25-2020, 04:17 PM)p_rushing Wrote: What assumptions are being made. There is a video of the full attempted arrest. The facts also show he had an active arrest warrant for sexual abuse, domestic violence, and whatever else. If that isn't a criminal, I don't know what is. Empathy would be justified if he complied with the instructions and the cops shot him while he was laying on the ground handcuffed. There should be no empathy is you fight the cops, ignore them, and reach for a potential weapon. If you, I, etc do that we are getting shot.

We have video yes, but there's not yet any unified story about why or when a taser was used, or who got the idea he had a knife. cops are known to come up with those kinds of justifications after the fact, even planting weapons or drugs at crime scenes.

There was a warrant for his arrest, but it's not clear if the cops knew about that at the time. Obviously, that fact would not be relevant, if none of the officers knew.

so you're adding tidbits of information that muddy the conversation

The knife comment came from the person recording the video.

Understand what happens at the scene when the cops arrive. It was a domestic call by someone else seeing the "women" fighting, so cops don't know who is the problem. Anyone at the scene involved will get secured and temporarily handcuffed. Then the cops will check ids and interview the people involved. They will make a determination on who if any is being arrested.

You can't isolate everything to 1-2 seconds and say nothing else matters. If the cops ran his license, tag, or knew him he was going to be arrested because of the warrant. Even if the cops didn't know it, he knew it and it's why he fought them and tried to at best leave.

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