(08-25-2020, 05:16 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(08-25-2020, 04:17 PM)p_rushing Wrote: What assumptions are being made. There is a video of the full attempted arrest. The facts also show he had an active arrest warrant for sexual abuse, domestic violence, and whatever else. If that isn't a criminal, I don't know what is. Empathy would be justified if he complied with the instructions and the cops shot him while he was laying on the ground handcuffed. There should be no empathy is you fight the cops, ignore them, and reach for a potential weapon. If you, I, etc do that we are getting shot.

We have video yes, but there's not yet any unified story about why or when a taser was used, or who got the idea he had a knife. cops are known to come up with those kinds of justifications after the fact, even planting weapons or drugs at crime scenes.

There was a warrant for his arrest, but it's not clear if the cops knew about that at the time. Obviously, that fact would not be relevant, if none of the officers knew.

so you're adding tidbits of information that muddy the conversation

LOL.  So please tell us.  If a suspect is in a physical confrontation on the ground with 2 police officers (as shown in the video) why does he all of the sudden get up?  Does he really just "casually" walk by a police officer "casually" holding his firearm?  Was he going to his vehicle to retrieve his identification to completely comply with the officers' instructions?

What "tactically" would you do if you and a fellow officer were attempting to detain a subject (on the ground) and he somehow got away from you?  Do you KNOW without a doubt that he is unarmed?  What if he ignores your instructions and is walking away?  What if he reaches (doesn't appear to be getting into) a vehicle?  What "tactically" should the police officer(s) have done?  Both officers had their firearms drawn, why is that?  Was that a bad thing to do "tactically"?

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