(08-25-2020, 07:04 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:

(08-25-2020, 06:35 PM)mikesez Wrote: (1) The two officers failed to hold him down. More officers were available and more should have joined.
(2) he's not causal at all.  He's obviously agitated.
(3) no way for them to know at the time, from what we know now.
(4) stand up, run after him, unless I've seen him with a knife.
(5) I just fought him hand to hand, so, most likely, I've either already seen his weapon (if the knife story was true) or I'm pretty sure he has no weapon.

But at this point the perspective shifts.  First questions were from the perspective of the two officers fighting on the ground.  The next questions are from the perspective of the officer who fired the shot.
(6) presumably, I drew my weapon to give cover to the two officers fighting on the ground. I had a decent position, about 15 feet away from the fight. At this point I have two responsibilities. One is to fire my weapon, if I perceive an immediate threat to anyone's life. But the other is to make sure I and only I maintain control of this loaded, unholstered, and unlocked weapon. I can't risk hand to hand combat anymore.  A suspect in his right mind will act the same with a pistol pointed at him from 15 feet away, as he acts when a pistol is up against his skull. Tactically, I gain nothing, and lose everything, if I close distance with him with my weapon still drawn.
(7) this is a tactical error stemming from either a lack of coordination or lack of training, or bad training.  There was no need for a second person to draw a gun. It should have been 3 with fists, tazers, and batons, and one with a gun.  It's very off-putting when we see the man get up and just walk past two officers who are holding weapons. Our instinct is to think that the one who stood his ground was lazy.  But that was the one who had good training, and knows that he cannot close with a weapon drawn. But the other officer thinks he can close with his weapon drawn, and you see what happens.

Mikesez and his "tactical knowledge"... the gift that keeps on giving.