(08-29-2020, 12:31 PM)JackCity Wrote:

(08-29-2020, 11:41 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Useless? That's rich coming from a foreigner who knows nothing about life in America or the laws of the country, much less individual states. The only thing you do on this board is blame cops for everything. Never mind the fact that you come from a left wing liberal country where police aren't faced with the prospect of dying every day, because some low-life criminal might decide to open fire on them for something as insignificant as a traffic stop, (this has happened many, many times.) Cops have to make split second decisions and if they are wrong, it could mean they die. Criminals who disobey police orders put themselves in positions to be shot. All they have to do is comply with the rules. Don't run from cops. If you do, it is assumed you are doing something wrong and EVERYONE with an ounce of common sense knows not to make any sudden movements, because you could be reaching for a weapon. Despite common sense though, people still do it and when tragedy happens, who gets blamed? The cops do. They get labeled murderers even though it could be them laying dead if they didn't take action. 

Like it or not, we have the 2nd amendment in this country which means the majority of the population own guns. We also have a large criminal element which has them illegally and in many cases the gangs here, have better and more effective weapons than the police do. There is nothing we can do about that though. That ship has sailed. We simply have to deal with the cards we have now and that means cops are in CONSTANT danger. This is America, not Ireland. Americans face a whole different set of issues than you do in your ultra liberal nation, yet you constantly spout off like you know how to fix all of our problems and it seems as though it always starts with blaming the police. Police do A LOT more good than bad. 90% of police are good people. There are bad ones, like in any profession, but you seem to lump them all together, much like how racists lump all black people together. How about judging each situation on it's own merits before blaming police in a country you don't even live in? Stick to the football forum or better yet, go find a hurling forum. You probably are a lot more familiar with that, being Irish.

Thank you for the paragraph of things about America which are incredibly obvious and discussed plenty in here, including by myself. 

There's numerous cases of people "complying" with police who are still abused by the law and simply not complying with the law doesn't (read shouldn't) give police the right to execute humans. 

Also im laughing so hard at the irony of you saying racists lump all black people together when you said Christian McCaffrey was going to bust because he was a white running back. Pretty much the definition of pot calling kettle black....if you will pardon the pun!

Nothing about this is obvious. These are complicated issues that only the most arrogant people on the right and the left (you), believe is obvious, because it fits your narrative of how you believe life should be. It is through that arrogance that you constantly spout off about things that fit your beliefs. 

Tell me, what exactly is "numerous?" Police deal with dangerous situations in many cases, multiple times a day. Yet there has only been a handful of incidents that have been brought to the forefront of the media. Accidents do happen anytime you have high pressure situations. Never mind the fact that the United States has the third largest population on Earth. Are there some bad cops? Of course there are, but the size ratio of those bad apples are extremely small compared to the overall police force in this country. In the U.S. the media likes to take horrific things and blow them up to make them look more common than they actually are. It gets them ratings by spreading fear. All of our news outlets do it, in many cases to fit their own narrative. Whether it be CNN, MSNBC, Fox or whatever. They all have agendas and twist things to fit their ideals. That is something you obviously don't know about the United States. 

As far as not complying with police, what is your solution Mr. genius? Are the cops supposed to do nothing and risk getting killed themselves? That's asinine! Criminals here aren't like the criminals in Ireland. Our bad guys are armed the majority of the time. Cops have to assume the criminals they are after have guns, because they usually do. So according to you, the cops are supposed to just be human targets for the bad guys, because we can't go around killing criminals who break the law, flee from justice and try to reach for unknown objects which could turn out to be dangerous weapons? That's a great idea! Why didn't we think of that? I guess we just needed an Irish man to show us how to run our justice system. Maybe instead of arming our cops with guns and tasers, we should just throw potatoes at the criminals.

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