(08-29-2020, 02:14 PM)JackCity Wrote:

(08-29-2020, 01:39 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Nothing about this is obvious. These are complicated issues that only the most arrogant people on the right and the left (you), believe is obvious, because it fits your narrative of how you believe life should be. It is through that arrogance that you constantly spout off about things that fit your beliefs. 

Tell me, what exactly is "numerous?" Police deal with dangerous situations in many cases, multiple times a day. Yet there has only been a handful of incidents that have been brought to the forefront of the media. Accidents do happen anytime you have high pressure situations. Never mind the fact that the United States has the third largest population on Earth. Are there some bad cops? Of course there are, but the size ratio of those bad apples are extremely small compared to the overall police force in this country. In the U.S. the media likes to take horrific things and blow them up to make them look more common than they actually are. It gets them ratings by spreading fear. All of our news outlets do it, in many cases to fit their own narrative. Whether it be CNN, MSNBC, Fox or whatever. They all have agendas and twist things to fit their ideals. That is something you obviously don't know about the United States. 

As far as not complying with police, what is your solution Mr. genius? Are the cops supposed to do nothing and risk getting killed themselves? That's asinine! Criminals here aren't like the criminals in Ireland. Our bad guys are armed the majority of the time. Cops have to assume the criminals they are after have guns, because they usually do. So according to you, the cops are supposed to just be human targets for the bad guys, because we can't go around killing criminals who break the law, flee from justice and try to reach for unknown objects which could turn out to be dangerous weapons? That's a great idea! Why didn't we think of that? I guess we just needed an Irish man to show us how to run our justice system. Maybe instead of arming our cops with guns and tasers, we should just throw potatoes at the criminals.

Buddy I don't watch any of your news and actively avoid the clearly partisan fox, CNN and numerous other entities people watch in here. And have mentioned that numerous times too so I'm not sure why you think it's new information. Maybe you don't frequent the politics section enough. 

How about for starters police shouldn't be shooting unarmed citizens simply for not complying to their rules. Secondly having actual consequences for poor police behavior by getting rid of qualified immunity and having actual removals handled much more sensitively and less tolerance of "bad cops" (which unions advocate for keeping in the force) would help regain some trust. Thirdly the entire manual on how to handle protests needs to be re-written. A fun fact is the rubber bullets they use were designed to be shot at the ground, except US police choose to fire them directly at protestors. Also tear gas being so prominent in protest dispersal only rules up the crowd. 

Also laughing at your comment about an Irish man showing you how to run your justice system. Look up the history of American policing and protest control and check the nationality of arguably the most prominent figure in it. 

Ps the potatoe jibes are so 1990s, about time you left that decade

How are the police supposed to know these people are unarmed??????????????? You have yet to explain this. If a criminal is fleeing and reaching into his pocket or wherever, how is a cop supposed to make a split second judgement and know that criminal isn't reaching for a gun? None of the arguments you make are valid unless you can tell me how a cop is supposed to know if a person is unarmed. Again, this isn't Ireland. The vast majority of our criminals are armed. 

It doesn't matter about the nationality of the prominent figures in the American justice system. They lived here and experienced what being a police officer is all about. You don't.

As for the potato comment, that was low hanging fruit. I'll change that to heads of cabbage.

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