(09-20-2020, 11:09 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(09-20-2020, 10:38 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: I have no doubt abortion is on the table, but let’s not equate ruling against baby murder as being akin to doing whatever they want with their bodies.

Really? Are you willing to adopt any of the unwanted children that will be put into foster care if Roe vs. Wade is overturned? There will be a ton of them. We'll see a spike in child murder, child abuse, crime (as some of the kids growing up in foster care will feel unwanted and have no role models to teach them right from wrong.) Then you have to factor in the added cost of all these new people and the strain it will have on the already overcrowded foster care system. Taxpayers are gonna have to build new group homes to house these children, because there is already not enough foster families to take in the kids that there is now. There will also be more children born with handicaps and birth defects and that will put a bigger strain on the healthcare system, so prepare for your premiums and co-pay to go up. It's so hypocritical of people to just want something gone without coming up with solutions to the dire ramifications that action will create.

That’s such a silly argument. Why am I responsible for directly caring for other people that choose not to care for the people they just birthed? That entire argument requires that, if you don’t want something to happen (pick anything), then you have to be responsible for everything that happens. 

All those things you say will rise is based on conjecture. You don’t know that. If it’s OK to kill them before they’re born, why stop afterward? We could eliminate a lot of hungry kids if we compassionately euthanized all these poor children. I understand that you don’t believe them to be human yet, but the justification you gave is outside of that. You cited abuses, crimes, and suffering as justifiable reasons, and If those are good reasons to eliminate life then it shouldn’t matter when it’s eliminated.

(09-20-2020, 01:02 PM)MojoKing Wrote:

(09-20-2020, 12:52 PM)mikesez Wrote: I hear all of that, and this is why I usually find myself on the fence on this issue.
We have one party that recognizes that killing healthy babies in the wombs of healthy mothers is murder.
And we have another party that recognizes that we need to do more to provide for young mothers and help parents in general stay sane, so that children are well provided for and grow up without abuse.
I wish there was one party I could vote for that knew both of these 

It’s a shame that most of these dudes are dudes. What right do you have to tell to another human being what they can and can’t do with their bodies? Not to mention the costs as one poster mentioned. 

Republicans are masterminds at getting the public behind them. 

Pro choice? How about Pro life 
BLM? How about all lives matter
Free Medicare? How about that’s a death panel

It’s like nuance doesn’t exist for them, it’s just black and white

Can we stop the men should stay in their lane argument? My mom and wife are way more passionate about being anti-abortion than I am.

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