(09-20-2020, 11:47 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: I just love how a bunch of men are arguing about this. /sarcasm

The government should never be involved in this decision. I don't support abortion except in some circumstances, but the government has no business forcing women to give birth to children they don't want. Period. If you've never given up a baby for adoption you have no idea- NO IDEA- what you're talking about when you say, "Oh, they can just put it up for adoption." BS. It's not that simple, especially for babies that aren't white.

And for you judgemental pricks; not every woman gets pregnant by consensual sex, BC is not 100% effective, and tell me the last time you lived a perfect life without mistakes. So shut up. You are the reason women needed RBG on the SC in the first place. I may not have agreed with her politics but she made sure women had a choice in a time we were still considered second class citizens.

This is all I'm saying on the subject so don't expect an argument.

This is hilarious. I guess women can't comment on men commenting on abortion, because they haven't been a man who had to sit idly by as a woman aborted his child. /sarcasm

All laws are essentially a civil compromise on morality. A speed limit isn't there because it's inherently evil to go faster than 70 MPH. It's there because more deaths occur at higher rates of speed. Conversely, we could limit deaths even more by reducing the speed limit to 35 MPH, but it would reduce the effectiveness of travel significantly. Therefore, society strikes a bargain between convenience and death. One doesn't need to have a driver's license to participate in that discussion. 

Abortion is no different. For most people, it's a moral argument about when life begins. If all of the world agreed that life began at conception, this wouldn't, and shouldn't be an issue. I recognize, however, that this is not a universal standard, so the compromise is not about the inconvenience for a woman, but how far out can you reasonable wait until you are potentially taking the life of a cognizant being. You don't have a be a woman to weigh in on this issue. This assumes, of course, that one values human life. The right to life is a pillar of stability in a society that values individuality.

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