(09-20-2020, 10:14 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(09-20-2020, 07:08 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I would gladly give Dems free birth control and morning after pills, if they would give up abortion after 4 weeks with the exception to save the life of the mother.

I don't see it as a deal.  
Both things reduce abortion.  Birth control, and a stricter ban.  One or the other or both are all good choices.  It's like if the boss offers you a steak dinner, and you're saying "sure, but you have to throw in a lobster too or no deal."

No one wants to have an abortion, stupid. Not the actual procedure, at least. Even if abortion were completely unregulated, the goal should be reducing abortions as much as possible, by making every other option freely available to women. I would even have the state pay for their medical bills during pregnancy and adoption fees (for the adopting parents). I realize this isn't a libertarian or conservative position, but I would be willing to make that compromise to potentially protect the life of an unborn individual. 

I'd go even further than that. I would give every man one free vasectomy and reversal. If he chooses not to exercise this option, he is on the hook for child care until the child is independent, whether or not the woman gives it up for adoption. You could even make a database for men who had their vasectomy. I don't care. It would be worth it to me to go to these lengths to safeguard and maintain the dignity of human life. 

At some point, people need to accept responsibility for risky behavior. If you want the freedom to take risks, you live with the decisions.

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