(10-05-2020, 10:28 AM)Minshew Mania Wrote: Lol let's trade Minshew to the Patriots, he sucks. Awful let's draft Lawrence.

I'll be curious to see what ya'lls thoughts are in 10 years after that happened.

I honestly think you guys don't know what a good QB looks like. We been seeing bad ones too often. To even bring up Bortle's apologists just goes to show you don't understand what you're seeing. Bortles was actually pretty decent except in one key category, he could not throw the football. Which is a pretty laughable problem to have as a QB.

Minshew checks all the boxes, we're just a bad football team, which is frustrating because our Offense is good enough to hang with most teams in this league, being 3 years removed from on of the League's best defenses, this hurts.

The plan is obviously to push next year, and I trust we will be just improved. But honestly without some big free agent signings I'm not sure it will be enough. Not sure who's all going to be available this off season

lol, or he's going to end up somewhere else really stable/good like the Saints after Drew Brees retires. Or the Steelers. Or maybe even somewhere like the Colts after Phillip Rivers retires. By the time Gardner's rookie contract is over, I could see Drew, Big Ben and Phillip either having retired or being on the brink of retirement. And the teams they are on, especially the Steelers/Saints are teams that are well run organizations.

If their QB's retire before Gardner's contract is up, they can win enough not to get a top draft pick. But still be looking for a new QB. And then once he's available he could have an opportunity to sign with them. The Steelers were winning with a third string QB in Duck Hodges. They darn near made the playoffs with him last year. If they had Gardner they would have made the playoffs last year.

There is opportunity for him to eventually start for other teams, one reason because in the next few years some of these old QB's will retire. And almost all of them are on teams that aren't bad enough to tank, even without them. And teams may finally move on from some of the younger ones that are less productive than Gardner as well.

In the next few years, he could have an opportunity of starting for some really good organizations.

Some people like to compare him to Ryan Fitzpatrick. Okay, well how many times has Fitzpatrick had the opportunity to start on a team and take a QB1 position. And he only lost those spots because he fell short in big moments, and kept being up and down. One example would be the Jets team he was on a few years back, when he had them in playoff contention late in the season. Only to revert back to throwing a bunch of interceptions in a game late in the season, contributing to them missing them.

I think that Gardner could have a better career than him. And if he gets on a good organization, will have a better chance of holding onto a starter position. He's not a Chase Daniels type who seems to care more about getting paid to be backup than to try and actually be a starter.

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