(10-05-2020, 11:39 AM)mal234 Wrote:

(10-05-2020, 11:17 AM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote: Do you really think he's a Top 5 QB in the NFL because of some meaningless stats?  Really?  You will be very lonely on that island if you do.

His QBR is 19th.  Pedestrian at best.  I'm not saying he can't become better, but he could also get worse.   The thing is, we don't know.  Let's play the season out before we get any real evaluation or projection of him.

Technically he is top 5 in that one statistic. And he had a top five performance in the the first week. And top 10 performances the first two weeks of this season. I can't think of more than 9 QB's that played/looked better than Gardner did the first couple of weeks this season. Off the top of my head, I would say Russell Wilson, Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, Lamar, Mahomes, etc... I can't think of too many beyond that. He was showing that he could hang in there with a really good group of players.

I think he has the potential to be a good QB and a longer starter in this league. Look at what he's putting up with a team that has some really bad problems. When you factor in everything and I'll include QBR in that he may already be like top 15 overall right now. At the very least close to it. It's very possible (especially with all of the teams that are currently also 1-3 and 0-4 right now.) We have a lot of teams right now with bad records and a lot their QB's are not putting up the numbers/production that Gardner has been doing. And some of these teams have better coaches, weapons and defenses than Gardner has.

I think that he can definitely grow and improve, especially if the situation around him becomes better.
 

And he has the room to go up, if this team could play better overall. Or if he finds himself in a much better situation.

Well, I will respectfully disagree that he is a Top 15 QB.  I think he has played well, particularly the first 2 games of the season.  You think he can grow and improve, but I actually expect a regression over the course of the season to who he is... a below average starting QB in the NFL.  Its only been 4 games this year and we have already seen a regression in these last 2.  Time will tell.

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