(10-05-2020, 02:20 PM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote: (10-05-2020, 01:59 PM)Kane Wrote: I think this is key. If there is a regime change we can almost guarantee a new QB. Which is fine, that's a full reset, new GM/HC combo will want their guy. Minshew certainly has shown enough to be a very good back up at least. If Caldwell is still here, I'm almost certain they continue to build around Minshew, unless he really regresses and actually becomes the reason we're losing games.
And to answer Mania's question.... It's early for the college season but outside of Lawrence, Trask and Jones both look really good. Fields will play at some point. And a lot of pundits like the kid from NDSU (though, I'm not much of a fan and I don't think he's playing a bunch this year iirc). It's almost always like this too, it's "THIS QB OR NO ONE". Like when it was Tua and then everyone else. Then the season happens and Burrow is the #1 guy. Herbert is also playing okay (better than I thought he would) and Herbert was being talked up as a guy that woulda coulda been #1 overall the year earlier had he came out early. There's almost never just 1 QB in any draft. And there's almost always one that goes later (outside top ten) that ends up better than people expected.
There's also no guarantee a team like Washington, Jets, or Giants definitely go QB if they have #1 overall pick. They could get the best LT or pass rusher from the class.
Exactly right. Also look at the 2017 Draft that was considered to have a "weak" QB class at the time; it produced Mahomes at #10 and Watson at #12, after Trubisky was drafted #2. If our brain trust had any vision at the #4 pick, we would be in a very different position today. We just cut our #4 pick. If/when our new GM gets here in January, he will evaluate Minshew's season and the other QB's in the Draft and decide what course is best for this team. No one can possibly trust Caldwell to that again.
The best teams are built through the Draft. We are not one of them.
I think it's gonna have to be about 4 wins or less for Khan to actually clean house. Based on the last 2 week's it seems more possible than I thought preseason. But if they get close to 6 wins I think they're on pace for the plan they (Doug and Dave) sold him in the offseason. Shed cap, get young (again), attack 2021 more aggressively in free agency and hope the offense carries the D while it slowly gets better with a lot of young drafted talent. Allen, Chaisson, Henderson, Hamilton. Then a few studs in 2021 free agency plus lots of draft capital, again.
I wanted a cleaned house last off season, fresh GM and HC with vision [was lobbying hard on message board for Riddick and Bienemy] but I also want to win as much as possible so this season is certainly shaping up to be a catch 22. Either suck and clean house a year after we should have already (basically punting on 2021 as well) or win enough to keep Caldwell and Doug around another year (possibly shaping up to be hitting reset again in 2022)
Lots of people will want to lose. Tank for [whatever QB], lose to finally fire [somebody, anybody]. I still want to win now. I want to look back at 2020 and be like "wow that started rough but we ACTUALLY have a future".
Only 12 games to go...
