(10-06-2020, 03:43 PM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote:

(10-06-2020, 02:49 PM)Minshew Mania Wrote: The approach isn't wrong, its the lackluster coaching and lack of talent. Football is a hard game to get around lack of talent due to all of the 1v1 matchups in any given play. You have to be a HOF level type coach to get creative enough, like Belicheck has done in the past with some pretty average defenses.

That being said the approach itself has led to stories like the Miracle on Ice. The difference is that US Hockey team had a HOFer coach.

We have Doug Moron and David Washes Dishes.

The approach is 100% wrong.  It is so wrong the only reference you could give me of it working was from a different sport 40+ years ago.  That is the exception, not the rule.

You need some "personalities" with talent, but to keep them, you need to build a strong culture where you can accept these personalities and direct them towards a common mission.  When you have 50+ guys on a team, they aren't all going to be choir boys.  I do agree with you that DM and DC have not developed a strong culture whatsoever... every talented personality we have had here couldn't wait to leave.  Just another reason we need to move on from this entire regime after the season and clean house.

Well to be fair, I could name a more current example: the New England Patriots. Again, the difference is that the coach is a HOFer.

I hate to break it to you, but our "strong personality" players are wanting out of Jacksonville, not because of the culture, but because we're the Jags and we've been god awful the better part of 20 years.

Apart from hating losing (most people hate to lose, especially professional athletes.) Those types of players typically got it in their head that they're shoeins for a HOF ballot. So they're chasing rings second only to their paycheck. Obviously we're not providing rings. And unless you're a QB, a WR on a short contract or a TE, chances are we're not "overpaying" for your services. So where does that leave guys like that.

Guess what I'm trying to say is, help is not on the way. We could clean house tomorrow and it's not going to change the perception of the Jaguars. The only thing that will is by winning, and winning consecutively. And unfortunately we got the whole league against us, in more ways than one. We will have to overcome all of that to see any success with this franchise. The approach honestly has some merit. But obviously it helps to have good coaches and good players, which are both big question marks right now

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