(10-06-2020, 04:27 PM)Minshew Mania Wrote:

(10-06-2020, 03:43 PM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote: The approach is 100% wrong.  It is so wrong the only reference you could give me of it working was from a different sport 40+ years ago.  That is the exception, not the rule.

You need some "personalities" with talent, but to keep them, you need to build a strong culture where you can accept these personalities and direct them towards a common mission.  When you have 50+ guys on a team, they aren't all going to be choir boys.  I do agree with you that DM and DC have not developed a strong culture whatsoever... every talented personality we have had here couldn't wait to leave.  Just another reason we need to move on from this entire regime after the season and clean house.

Well to be fair, I could name a more current example: the New England Patriots. Again, the difference is that the coach is a HOFer.

I hate to break it to you, but our "strong personality" players are wanting out of Jacksonville, not because of the culture, but because we're the Jags and we've been god awful the better part of 20 years.

Apart from hating losing (most people hate to lose, especially professional athletes.) Those types of players typically got it in their head that they're shoeins for a HOF ballot. So they're chasing rings second only to their paycheck. Obviously we're not providing rings. And unless you're a QB, a WR on a short contract or a TE, chances are we're not "overpaying" for your services. So where does that leave guys like that.

Guess what I'm trying to say is, help is not on the way. We could clean house tomorrow and it's not going to change the perception of the Jaguars. The only thing that will is by winning, and winning consecutively.

I disagree with basically every thought you had here.  The Patriots have had all kinds of personalities on there teams.  The they take fliers on all kinds of guys, from Randy Moss, Aqib Talib, Corey Dillion, Chad Ochocinco, etc, etc.  They just manage them and have a better culture to withstand them.

The culture and winning are related.  Its the chicken or the egg.  The culture breeds winning. Winning reinforces the culture. But you need leadership to create culture, both in the front office and coaching staff. We have none currently.

Everyone has the same salary cap.  If you build the culture, you will win, and more players want to be there.  You don't have to overpay.  In fact, you get a 4-8% raise coming to Florida to play if you get the same contract elsewhere because we have no state income tax.  No need to over pay.  Everyone in the League has the same amount of money to spend.  But we are paying more money in dead cap space to players who are no longer with our team than any other team in the League... $43,771,825 this season to be exact.  At least we are #1 in something, right?

Help IS on the way and cleaning house will begin the perception change of our organization in the League.  A competent GM who is more concerned with winning games than perceptions of his height, weight, speed, draft choices.  Who sprinkles in intelligent free agents in areas of need and has a succession plan for them with solid draft picks before their skills diminish over the years.  A GM who doesn't pay 44 million dollars a year to players no longer with the team.  2021 is a critical year to make a change, and if we do.... help is on the way.

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