(10-07-2020, 09:25 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(10-07-2020, 09:16 AM)hb1148 Wrote: How do you define a franchise QB? If you're talking about Patrick Mahommes or Russel Wilson, I completely agree he'll never be those guys. But surely a QB doesn't have to play like that to be a franchise QB. Right now there's not that much to differentiate the performance of Burrow from Murray from Minshew other than a little bit of arm strength. I think he *might* become a Deshaun Watson (as far as importance, not playing style) by his third or fourth year.  I don't think you want to give him to long to figure it out though. We should have a better idea by the end of this year. I wouldn't go on the basis of just the last two games.

How do you know if he will ever be a Mahomes or Wilson type? I define a franchise QB as someone that passes the eyeball test. A QB that can process information quickly, go through his progressions in a hurry and has the confidence to make the right read and get the ball out in a hurry. To me, that is football I.Q. and Burrow is showing that through 4 games. I'm shocked he's showing these traits this early and I know he's bound to have some bumps in the road, being behind such a putrid O-Line, but what he is doing with so little, amazes me. He doesn't get spooked when the pocket collapses. He maintains his composure and takes what the defense gives him. That is a veteran move.

I think Wilson and Mahomes are generational type players. That isn't a knock on Minshew, it's just that those guys don't come along very often. 

I agree that a subjective evaluation is important. I think Minshew has largely passed the eye test over last year and so far this year and that his game against the Bengals was a function of him trying to force things. Once he settles down, he should get back to doing what he was doing before.

Then there are objective measurements, you need those too. By most of those measurements, he's actually better than the young guys you say are better than he is right now.  He could flop, for sure. If he continues in the direction he showed in the Dolphins game and to a lesser degree in the Bengals game then we might be in trouble.

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