(10-10-2020, 10:41 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(10-10-2020, 10:17 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I still say we are in pretty good position to get Jaylen Twyman or Darius Stills in the draft. Both are really good pass rushing 3 techniques that should go in that mid first to early second round range. Twyman is gonna go before Stills, but both could help us. After these two though, the class drops off a cliff and there's nothing that will be available in the 2021 free agent class outside of Ndamukong Suh who is will be 34 years old, almost 35 by the time the season starts in 2021. It will be very hard to trade for an Akiem Hicks type player. Teams tend to wanna keep guys like that. We could try to make a trade for a guy like Geno Atkins, but the Bengals are likely gonna want some kind of O-Lineman along with some high picks. Who are we willing to part with? I'd say the asking price for Atkins could be a 1st, 3rd and Brandon Linder. Are we willing to pay that?

Allen is better than any DT in the draft and Wash. is in rebuilding mode with no QB.  Allen will also have to get paid next year going into his 5th year option .  He is the one guy I think we could trade for and could help both teams.  Lol, Atkins is gonna be 33, we could probably get him for a 3rd alone or im almost certain we could get him for Linder straight up as bad as their oline is but I'm not gonna trade our top 5 center.  A 1st, 3rd, and Linder is comical lol.  If we wanted older we would of just kept CC who is a better player and we got a 5th for him

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I feel Allen is playing out of position in Washington.  He is good there but he would be even better at 3tech in a 4-3 imo

Allen has never played DT. He was a 5 technique in college as well and would have to gain like 25-30 lbs., just to be big enough to hold up at DT. Not to mention that moving a guy from the outside to the inside almost never works. Playing in space and playing on the inside are two totally different things. I think Allen is perfect where he is. Comparing Allen to DT's in the draft is like comparing apples and oranges. They play different positions. I'd never make that trade unless we intended on switching to a 3-4 scheme full time. As for Geno Atkins, you guys are crazy if you think you could get him for a 2nd or a 3rd round pick, despite his age. Since 2015 he has sack totals of 11, 9, 9, 10 and 4.5 as his production fell last season when he had a myriad of nagging injuries. 

I just don't see any good, young, interior pass rushers in the NFL that an team would be willing to part with, so we'd almost have to get one via the draft. That would mean using a first round pick on one since the only two standouts (Twyman and Stills,) likely won't make it to our 2nd round selection.

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(10-10-2020, 11:23 AM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: The Taven Bryan pick is enough to fire Caldwell IMO. One of the biggest busts in franchise history. Dude is an absolute nonfactor.

Agreed. I remember tossing furniture around the house when the pick was made. I had him rated as a 4th rounder. He lacked production in college and was drafted solely on potential, much like K'Lavon Chaisson.

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