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Defensive line woefully bad

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(This post was last modified: 10-10-2020, 04:26 PM by NeptuneBeachBum.)

(10-10-2020, 03:44 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(10-10-2020, 10:41 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Allen is better than any DT in the draft and Wash. is in rebuilding mode with no QB.  Allen will also have to get paid next year going into his 5th year option .  He is the one guy I think we could trade for and could help both teams.  Lol, Atkins is gonna be 33, we could probably get him for a 3rd alone or im almost certain we could get him for Linder straight up as bad as their oline is but I'm not gonna trade our top 5 center.  A 1st, 3rd, and Linder is comical lol.  If we wanted older we would of just kept CC who is a better player and we got a 5th for him

I feel Allen is playing out of position in Washington.  He is good there but he would be even better at 3tech in a 4-3 imo

Allen has never played DT. He was a 5 technique in college as well and would have to gain like 25-30 lbs., just to be big enough to hold up at DT. Not to mention that moving a guy from the outside to the inside almost never works. Playing in space and playing on the inside are two totally different things. I think Allen is perfect where he is. Comparing Allen to DT's in the draft is like comparing apples and oranges. They play different positions. I'd never make that trade unless we intended on switching to a 3-4 scheme full time. As for Geno Atkins, you guys are crazy if you think you could get him for a 2nd or a 3rd round pick, despite his age. Since 2015 he has sack totals of 11, 9, 9, 10 and 4.5 as his production fell last season when he had a myriad of nagging injuries. 

I just don't see any good, young, interior pass rushers in the NFL that an team would be willing to part with, so we'd almost have to get one via the draft. That would mean using a first round pick on one since the only two standouts (Twyman and Stills,) likely won't make it to our 2nd round selection.


He means going to get Jonathon Allen in Washington in a trade or something, not moving Josh Allen to a 3 tech.

There is no way in hell anyone would give up more than a 3rd rounder for Geno Atkins as this point in his career.  He might have one or two years left after this season, and they won't be near his best. He played in all 16 games had injury and production issues last year, and this year he hasn't even gotten on the field yet.  He will be 33 next year.  I wouldn't even do it for a 3rd rounder... that would be too much.  Maybe a 5th at best, and only if I thought he had anything left in the tank.... just like we got from Baltimore for Calais. You are just looking at the name, not the current value of the player.
This is a results-oriented business.  There are no trophies or titles given for "moral victories" or for "winning the draft".  Our record with DC is 37-86.  6-10 is our 2nd best season in 8 years of Caldwell leadership.  These are the FACTS.
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Defensive line woefully bad - by enigma - 10-04-2020, 04:28 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by navyjagfan - 10-04-2020, 05:50 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by Mikey - 10-05-2020, 11:17 AM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by nejagsfan - 10-04-2020, 06:02 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by High Octane - 10-04-2020, 06:14 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by MoJagFan - 10-04-2020, 07:10 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by jaglyn - 10-04-2020, 10:24 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by Upper - 10-04-2020, 07:15 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by AndyUK - 10-04-2020, 07:41 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by Eric1 - 10-04-2020, 08:50 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by Kane - 10-05-2020, 10:19 AM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by Eric1 - 10-05-2020, 04:58 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by SamusAranX - 10-05-2020, 05:13 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by Preach - 10-06-2020, 10:47 AM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by jj82284 - 10-04-2020, 09:05 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by MoJagFan - 10-04-2020, 09:59 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by High Octane - 10-04-2020, 10:17 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by jaguarmvp - 10-04-2020, 10:21 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by surfon - 10-05-2020, 05:48 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by jaglyn - 10-06-2020, 09:11 AM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by CanDoBetter - 10-06-2020, 10:50 AM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by FatimaJaguar - 10-06-2020, 07:14 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by Dimson - 10-06-2020, 07:54 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by mal234 - 10-06-2020, 08:45 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by enigma - 10-06-2020, 09:05 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by Eric1 - 10-06-2020, 09:45 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by enigma - 10-06-2020, 10:36 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by FatimaJaguar - 10-09-2020, 12:05 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by surfon - 10-09-2020, 09:25 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by NeptuneBeachBum - 10-10-2020, 03:58 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by JaG4LyFe - 10-10-2020, 05:26 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by Eric1 - 10-10-2020, 06:18 PM
RE: Defensive line woefully bad - by enigma - 10-11-2020, 12:43 PM



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