(10-10-2020, 03:58 PM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote:

(10-10-2020, 03:44 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Allen has never played DT. He was a 5 technique in college as well and would have to gain like 25-30 lbs., just to be big enough to hold up at DT. Not to mention that moving a guy from the outside to the inside almost never works. Playing in space and playing on the inside are two totally different things. I think Allen is perfect where he is. Comparing Allen to DT's in the draft is like comparing apples and oranges. They play different positions. I'd never make that trade unless we intended on switching to a 3-4 scheme full time. As for Geno Atkins, you guys are crazy if you think you could get him for a 2nd or a 3rd round pick, despite his age. Since 2015 he has sack totals of 11, 9, 9, 10 and 4.5 as his production fell last season when he had a myriad of nagging injuries. 

I just don't see any good, young, interior pass rushers in the NFL that an team would be willing to part with, so we'd almost have to get one via the draft. That would mean using a first round pick on one since the only two standouts (Twyman and Stills,) likely won't make it to our 2nd round selection.

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He means going to get Jonathon Allen in Washington in a trade or something, not moving Josh Allen to a 3 tech.

There is no way in hell anyone would give up more than a 3rd rounder for Geno Atkins as this point in his career.  He might have one or two years left after this season, and they won't be near his best.  He played in all 16 games had injury and production issues last year, and this year he hasn't even gotten on the field yet.  He will be 33 next year.  I wouldn't even do it for a 3rd rounder... that would be too much.  Maybe a 5th at best, and only if I thought he had anything left in the tank.  You are just looking at the name, not the current value of the player.

I know. That's what I'm referring to. Allen plays 5 technique in Washington. He's not a DT. I saw him listed at 265 lbs., but Washington list him at 300 lbs. Maybe he has the size, but moving from the outside to inside is a difficult transition and you need a lot of physical strength to fight through the crowded interior and create pressure, whereas you can making a living being fast and quick on the outside. It's very rare to find a player that can do both and making such a trade would be extremely risky. I'd rather get a player who is a proven 3 technique.

As for Atkins, Cincinnati would NEVER trade him for that. He's also a fan favorite in my area. If they traded him for that little of a price, the fans would riot.

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