(10-12-2020, 11:46 AM)Corriewf Wrote:

(10-12-2020, 11:30 AM)Kane Wrote: "Stats don't tell the whole story"
and
"garbage time stats"

I haven't seen anything so far this season to convince me Minshew is the long term answer at all, which to me we were needing coming into the season.
I also haven't seen anything that tells me he can't be the guy for the immediate future. He makes plays and is playing within the system and plays given to him. One thing or another seems off every game, whether its WRs not open, OL protection failing, OC play calling or Minshew holding the ball and not seeing the field.

He'll never be the QB that makes everything work better around him. And for that I can't argue with people that want to draft a QB they feel CAN do that.
I'm just not sold that any QB is a sure fire pick to do such a thing. I still think the total team around the QB matters. I question people who think Sunshine comes in and instantly makes us a playoff contender. 
So often I see great QBs go to bad teams and end up looking bad. 

For me... jury's still out on Minshew but I don't see the team being much better going forward and without him creating wins and putting the team on his back, it is looking like his days as starter are numbered.

Yeah for sure we need better coaching staff. At some point though we have to risk it and try and go for an elite QB talent. It’s always going to be a risk and probably more often than not you won’t hit, but at some point we will. You HAVE to take some risk if you want to be a winning franchise and I think we have done that with Minshew. If you’re playing conservative you don’t ship off Foles for an unproven 6th round pick, but we did and I’m glad we did. 

I won’t pretend to be a college scout expert and can’t say whether this QB class is better than the last, but if you are picking in the top 5, you probably have not found your elite QB talent yet.

That's the thing; we have "risked it all" and then continually drafted to try and make the team fit the QB (and hence, retroactively justify the pick) multiple times:

Leftwich in 2003 
Gabbert in 2011
Bortles in 2014

We are 0-3 on high first round QB's. 

It's a crapshoot, and what's worse, it can muck the waters for future drafts. 

I'm not saying don't draft a QB at all next year; but don't reach because you need one, because at his floor, Minshew is a good placeholder who can deliver some wins with other talent on the field. That's not a bad floor to be at, frankly.

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